Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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I'll give you one. Acceptance of gay marriage could lead to acceptance of gay parenting, and I've argued very long that gay parenting is using children as guinea pigs in a social experiment.
The Slippery Slope
You said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too, therefore A should not happen.
The problem with this reasoning is that it avoids engaging with the issue at hand, and instead shifts attention to extreme hypotheticals. Because no proof is presented to show that such extreme hypotheticals will in fact occur, this fallacy has the form of an appeal to emotion fallacy by leveraging fear. In effect the argument at hand is unfairly tainted by unsubstantiated conjecture.
Yet again another logical fallacy is presented, this one is.
You should really head over to this website and check out the 24 common logical fallacies.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
And as I have been trying to explain to you, you have no more God given right to decide what is moral than I do, but between 15 million of us we just might be able to get it right. If it doesn't turn out to your satisfaction then you have the rest of your life to try again.
I don't think it's fanciful to conclude that A will lead to B in this case. Give someone an inch and they will want to go further. The gay aim has always been to be seen as "equals" in every respect, but in parenting capability I have argued that they are not.
Isn't that what you want? isn't that the main purpose of marriage?
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Wouldn't you say that if that right is not given then society is being immoral?
Pol Pot thought that living in a city corrupted people. His perfect life of living off the fields was considered moral. Religion was immoral. Anyone who disagreed with him was immoral.
Morality is a human construct
I don't think it is, [morality is a human construct] at least not in the way you are implying that it is based on opinion
I don't think it is, at least not in the way you are implying that it is based on opinion
Here you go VC
a pracftical linkage between black people, homosexuality and child care you can use to promote the cause:
They whipped the 3 yearold with belt buckles, clothes hangers, etc
Well , the only other option is that it's God given and I doubt you believe that.
Well it is. Robert Mugabe would say he is a very moral man
ZIMBABWE'S President Robert Mugabe is no stranger to the moral high ground. Since the anti-colonial struggle and his first decade in office, when most of his speeches concerned themselves with the iniquitous apartheid regime on his southern border, his natural tone has been that of the champion of right against wrong. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mugabes-illfitting-suit-of-moral-outrage-1598214.html
Why would the only other option be a god?
When I say it's not a human construct, I mean it's not something that is based on the opinions of humans, it doesn't change based on popular votes or the opinion of a dictator. In any given situation there is an option which would be the most moral path, and other options that would be less moral, and this exists whether or not humans had discovered the concept of morality yet, it would exist if you replaced the human in the scenario with a chimp or an alien race.
Why would the only other option be a god?
When I say it's not a human construct, I mean it's not something that is based on the opinions of humans, it doesn't change based on popular votes or the opinion of a dictator. In any given situation there is an option which would be the most moral path, and other options that would be less moral, and this exists whether or not humans had discovered the concept of morality yet, it would exist if you replaced the human in the scenario with a chimp or an alien race.
What the f*** has this issue of "gay Marriage" got to do with the COLOUR OF A PERSONS SKIN?
Are you saying what is moral changes based on who is in power or on human opinion? If that's what you are trying to say I think you are wrong.
What Mugabe believes is moral, doesn't change what actually is moral, I believe he could have sincere beliefs that the things he does is moral, but if those actions fail certain tests, then they aren't moral.
principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad.So define morality then.
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Use abortion as an example. I think you will find it quite hard
Humans define what the term "morality" means, therefore it's a human construct. An alien race may define "morality" in a different way, or not at all.
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If you are talking about a "universal" morality then it has to be defined by something universal, which means a God, if one exists but until we know what that Being wants (some believe they do), then we have to stick to our own definition, which means our individual definitions or the definition as applied in law;
eg if abortions are legal then they are by definition "moral" as society sees them, even though abortions are not moral to some individuals
Yea, true. But the problem is people always think their beliefs are moral and just. And those with the bigger sticks tend to have their way
I think most people are moral, even the immoral ones... just their definition of those they prejudiced against are somewhat skewed (screwed?).
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