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Flood Levy - Do you agree?

What do yo think of the Gillard flood levy?

  • I agree with the flood levy and the current level seems right

    Votes: 24 21.2%
  • I agree with the flood levy but the current level is too low

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • I agree with the flood levy but the current level is too high

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • I disagree with the flood levy

    Votes: 84 74.3%

  • Total voters
    113
The election result is more a reflection of the sorry state of politics in Australia than anything else.
That says it all. So cynical, if you genuinely believe Gillard & Co "won' the election, you are utterly naive. What it came down to was which side had to cope with the greatest level of pre-existing bias from the independents who actually made the decision as to who would govern.

The political and personal baggage of loathing carried by Windsor, Oakeshott, and Katter, plus the Green affiliation of the other two made it a slam dunk for Labor.

But again, as others have observed, Tony Abbott has yet to demonstrate that he would be an adequate leader. If your PM survives, it will alas be no testimony to her personal or political charms, but rather a reflection of the inadequacy of the opposition.
 
Howard made plenty of mistakes but kept a pretty firm handle on things.

I really like John Howard....... I had to after all he spent $100s mil telling us how good he was with overt political advertising using your money.

Then of course there was the minor matter of $9bil of give always for his last election.

Surely you mean Costello kept a firm handle on things........


sorry for being off topic
 

No I meant once he made a decision he shafted you up the backside with it whether you liked it or not. He stood pretty firm by his decisions once he made them. Not saying they were always good.
 
Ross Gittins take on it

Floods expose national loss of loyalty and respect for leaders




http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...y-and-respect-for-leaders-20110201-1acbw.html

First few replies sum up what a lot of people are thinking.

Same sentiment that has crept in now, was the same that kicked the Keating government out all those years ago.

Politics aside, QLD will need a hand to get back on its feet after this latest disaster.
 
Great post moXJO,
another press apologist called on his insular, 'Golden Book Stories' view of the world. We're smarter than that Mr Journalist.
 
The government could easily make the money be removing negative gearing from existing homes and having it only on new stock. it doesn't even have to be backdated.

Many people are screaming for this in the letters columns of newspapers and by economists as 1st home buyers can't get into the market but funnily no politician, whatever the colour, will entertain the idea.
 

Well SC, it looks as if the Gumnut clan will now be eligible for the bikkies.

During Yasi the three ex Mrs Gumnuts and a gaggle of misanthropes and children of mine, fled back to casa Gumnut, which is built better than the bloody Pentagon.

We had 24 here for Yasi, and at the height of the blow, I managed to convince them to allow me collect the money from Centrelink on Monday, when it opens.

There were 18 over 18 and 6 under.

That is $18000 plus $2400, which I believe is $204000.

I'm still against it in principle.

As Groucho said.

"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."

gg
 
What is the allowance from Centrelink actually supposed to be for?
I wouldn't have thought, given your earlier post about how well you survived the cyclone, you really had a need to claim anything from the taxpayer, gg?

Perhaps I haven't properly understood your situation.
 

Exactly my point Julia, and I agree.

According to Gillard's guidelines, moi and the motley queue are entitled.

p.s. Sorry the previous post overestimated my windfall, it should be $20400

gg
 
Where is the money coming from for the cyclone relief to pay the Garpal Gumnuts of QLD? Now before all the bleeding hearts begin the FLAME ON about me being uncaring and not wanting to help the esteemed GG's of the world.

Wasn't this the same government that was crowing how well Australia was doing on the global macro economic front and implementing all these wonderful schemes to keep us "moving forward" (billion here, billion there, pretty soon we will be talking in real money)

Now we find out the tin is empty and we have to have a "flood levy" to assist in rebuilding QLD. This was announced BEFORE cyclone Yasi. Me thinks this "flood levy" will turn into a "natural disaster fund" to get through parliament and will become a permanent fixture of taxation ........ "moving forward" that is.
 

That's a very long winded way of saying she won ... matters little how that was achieved.

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p.s. Sorry the previous post overestimated my windfall, it should be $20400

gg

Ok now that upsets me a little.
 
What's noticeable in that photograph is, despite the pile up of water craft, the adjacent buildings seem quite unharmed. Says a lot about the force of water.
 
I get annoyed with these things, when people should be insured. Isnt that what its there for?

People have donated money and now they get told they have to donate again through levy -- thankyou very much.

What happens if the house was rented, do the owners still get this help even though they werent there?
 
People have donated money and now they get told they have to donate again through levy -- thankyou very much.

Tink the donations go to people (hopefully) levy to rebuild roads bridges etc (hopefully)
 
Well I could be wrong but apparently because I lost power for more than 48hrs (actual loss was 60 hours for me) due to cyclone yasi all I have to do is go to centrelink and collect $1000 dollars and don't have to pay the flood levy either, the food I threw out from the fridge was probably about $50 I rent and suffered no damage to personal items, during cyclone tessie 10 years ago lost power for 5 days and got nothing.
 
Yep, I understand that IFocus.

When we had the fires here in Vic, we had quite a few trying to rort the system, unfortunately.

I just dont understand why people dont insure themselves, bottom line.
 
Yep, I understand that IFocus.

When we had the fires here in Vic, we had quite a few trying to rort the system, unfortunately.

I just dont understand why people dont insure themselves, bottom line.

A lot of those who did have insurance are complaining loudly that "they" didn't cover me for "flood", "tidal surge'" etc. What they mean is "I didn't cover myself".

They don't seem to understand that you get what you pay for. If you pay for an inferior product, that is what you get.
 
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