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FFI - Fortescue Future Industries

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Fortescue Future Industries (FFI) is an UNLISTED global green energy and product company committed to producing zero-emission green hydrogen from 100 per cent renewable sources.
FFI is a developer, financier and operator investing in zero-emission resources to produce renewable energy at a scale equal to the oil and gas super majors.
FFI's vision is to make renewable green hydrogen the most globally traded seaborne energy commodity in the world.
It is not listed and included here only for discussion on their activities, so don't look for it on the ASX
 
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Fortescue and Incitec Pivot in talks for Australia’s first large scale renewable ammonia plant
 
Twiggy might be just better buying out IPL , it has been a trail of disappointments since IPL started agreements with CTP
 
Twiggy might be just better buying out IPL , it has been a trail of disappointments since IPL started agreements with CTP
Probably a bit expensive at $6b for what he wants out of it. Twiggy will be in the box seat as IPL would likely go along with whatever is proposed to be able to add some value to its mature business.
 
Twiggy might run the idea past the IPL financiers first , they might have some helpful ideas
 
The problem with an established renewable company, a lot of their generation will already be contracted out, Twiggy seems to be focusing on being able to be in control of generation through to end product.
This would require sizing the renewable generation, to suit the H2 end product, as has been posted, they already have experience building a solar farm so why pay a premium for established?
 
am not so sure the 'established' would be at a premium ( i thought Twiggy was a fairly accomplished deal-maker )

am GUESSING but suspect the ( Gibson Island ) plant is tired and in need of a refurb. ( or more )

current IPL shareholders might give a better opinion of the company , i jumped ship in January 2015

and besides i thought IPL had a second QLD plant out west ( an ideal place for solar-assisted production )

but the Twiggy might be keeping to small steps at the moment ( with a potential financial storm a possible silver lining for the cautious )
 
But wait - there's more as the ad says...

 
The Gibson Island plant is in a good location.
 
I don't see FFI being spun out of FMG anytime soon.

I am told there are very few synergies between Iron Ore and Hydrogen production.

The vibe within the new H2 staff is different from at the old FMG as befits a completely novel technology and fuel. Very few "old hands" from FMG will be working at FFI, apart from Twiggy. It will be all new hires with different skill-sets.

The attractive element about FFI is that it will have a chance to prosper with money from Iron Ore until H2 gets up to the stage of other alternative energies. Plus there should be incentives and tax benefits accruing to FMG.

All in all a nice combination.

gg
 
It will be all new hires with different skill-sets.
It looks like a bit of both - current skill-set plus new ones already at it.

Fortescue designs and builds its own electrolyser ahead of green hydrogen push

FFI chairman Andrew Forrest has spoken openly about his desire to tap into the engineering expertise that exists within the Fortescue business, having previously converted a large mining haul truck to run on hydrogen, and setting a 12-month goal to produce a zero emissions ship.
 
Am glad there's a thread for this, so it doesn't get lost in FMG

Fortescue Future Industries is scouting for port sites on Western Australia’s south coast near Esperance after pitching plans to local farmers to turn the region into a major green hydrogen hub.

The green energy arm of Fortescue Metals Group has signed exclusivity agreements with some farmers, and other deals are sitting on kitchen tables as the company looks to gain access to enough freehold land to build hundreds of wind turbines.

In return for giving up portions of land, farmers in one of WA’s best agricultural regions are eyeing annual fees of $15,000 or more per wind turbine plus a low-cost supply of green ammonia to fertilise their paddocks.
FFI would need to invest tens of billions of dollars to build the port, one or more desalination plants, an electrolyser, an ammonia production plant plus a network to connect hundreds of wind turbines across scores of farms

- and very much needed for the sandy, nutrient-poor soils of the Great Southern/ Esperance
 

Fortescue says first 2GW electrolyser factory will be too small, plans more

The new head of Fortescue Future Industries, Mark Hutchinson, says the company’s first hydrogen electrolyser factory, due to come on line in early 2023, will be too small to meet the company’s hydrogen ambitions, are more manufacturing plants are planned.

The new head of Fortescue Future Industries, Mark Hutchinson, says the company’s first hydrogen electrolyser factory, due to come on line in early 2023, will be too small to meet the company’s hydrogen ambitions, are more manufacturing plants are planned.

He has an “operating” budget of more than $1 billion for the current financial year and now heads a team of more than 1,000 that is seemingly growing rapidly.
 
According to The Australian , the Future is not looking quite so rosy.
Mick
 
This renewable energy project ties in with FFI's electrolyser at Gladstone, Twiggy just changing construction contractors, interesting thing is he owns the new company finishing the build and most of the company they are replacing.
Touted as the largest renewables project in the southern hemisphere, the 450-megawatt wind farm – which includes 100 turbines – is being built by Dr Forrest’s private company, Squadron Energy.
ontractors and subcontractors working on the site, 150 kilometres north-west of Rockhampton and 150 kilometres south of Mackay, were told on Wednesday night to stop work and take equipment from the site.
A source with knowledge of the project said the move was related to “a change in strategic direction”, with Squadron Energy taking over as project manager from Windlab.
It is understood there was a clause in the contract that allowed Windlab to be dismissed as project manager without a “just cause”. The purchase of CWP Renewables last year has given Squadron Energy the expertise to take control of construction of the project, which would involve a change in personnel.

The source rejected suggestions the shutdown was related to safety or cultural heritage, saying there would not be a significant delay to the project, which is expected to export power to the grid by 2025.

Still, the move to change contractors mid-project is unusual. One industry source said the call to demobilise was significantly different from a temporary stand-down.
Dr Forrest became one of Australia’s biggest owners of renewable energy assets last year with the aquisition of CWP, giving Squadron massive reach into NSW and adding to renewable assets that already have 2.4 gigawatts of capacity and an Australian development pipeline of 20GW.

Dr Forrest is also a 75 per cent owner of Windlab.
Squadron Energy, Dr Forrest’s private company, bought the Clarke Creek wind farm off Goldwind and Lacour last year.

The Fortescue Metals founder is keen to build a clean energy hub in central Queensland which will also link to the $1 billion electrolyser factory which one of his other companies, Fortescue Future Industries, is building in Gladstone.
 

Ponzi Scheme?

Multiple???

Or, just White Elephant developments....
 
Ponzi Scheme?

Multiple???

Or, just White Elephant developments....
Wouldn't be the first time that has been used to make money and wont be the last.
Let's be honest FFI could make a ton more money just flipping houses in Sydney, at least the renewable crap is employing people.?
The Govt is probably pouring a lot less money into FFI, than they are into keeping the unemployed happy and housed.
 

Has FFI actually done anything yet?

Apart from sack people?

Going to their website, it looks like a front for Extinction Rebellion...

 
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