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Economic implications of a SARS/Coronavirus outbreak

Something tells me there's going to be a hard selloff tomorrow before the weekend.

We are definitely overdue for a market correction. All that saved lockdown money has been pumped into real estate, financial markets and crypto. The party had to end sooner or later. The markets have been disconnected from reality for some time, but now it looks like the smart money is getting out.

It all started last Friday, and ever since then any rise has been sold into hard. I think you're right about Friday night on US markets. I also suspect things are going to get very ugly.

 
Scratch that. Things are mental. The nasdaq for example has gone +1.5 to -1.2 just on the day and there's still another 40 mins until close.

Amazing.
Close at -1.8. Oh the tears that have been cried today...
 
NDX closed down -1.83%. The smart money might have pre-empted things.

I agree about the correction, but the printers haven't stopped yet, all they're talking about is slowing them down and not even that has started yet.



Up almost 2% at one point and then closed -1.2%.

A 3.2% swing on the day is absolutely ridiculous.
 
Turns out it was apple:



Seems iphones hit market saturation and now all the pumpkin spice latte sippers need a new model to come out to open their daddy's wallets again.
 
We are definitely overdue for a market correction.
I hope so - my system has put me two thirds in cash at the moment so either I've got it seriously wrong or there's a correction happening.

So I'm biased in hoping you're right otherwise I've stuffed up big time.
 
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I hope so - my system has put me two thirds in cash at the moment so either I've got it seriously wrong or there's a correction happening.

So I'm biased in hoping you're right otherwise I've stuffed up big time.
I'm surprised you trade systems smurf, you've always struck me as more of a qualitative guy?

I haven't even tried to run technicals and/or systems in this market. It's so far from typical we might as well be on another planet. Even today markets are going bonkers after russia broke opec's mandate and has opened its oil taps. Systems simply cannot predict that.


I showed a screencap before that a literal buy on red/sell on green days would have netted you 20% just in the last week. 40% if you'd gone total degen with inverse etf's on a rotation.

(this is not me trying to rub salt into the wound, it's a genuine question)
 
I hope so - my system has put me two thirds in cash at the moment so either I've got it seriously wrong or there's a correction happening.

So I'm biased in hoping you're right otherwise I've stuffed up big time.
well a proper settling has been due since the floodgates opened on stimulus now some say that was the GFC , some September 2019 , others March 2020 ,

normal logic would suggest a retrace before Xmas ( a dip of less than 20% from the highs ) but when was the last time this market was normal

just in case remember the limitations of the Government deposit guarantee ( UP TO $250,000 per ADI NOT account or bank ) i would hate to see folks with stranded cash if things go badly pear-shaped

if it is any consolation it looks like i will have more cash reserves than i am comfortable with before Xmas also ( i prefer to nibble not move the market )

good luck
 
Commodities diversified .i like s32 here, commodities etf
Silver,gold,copper.ideally mid tier not major miners of these
Agriculture land owning
Energy:coal or better oil outside West economies
Russia: as the some of the above and economic link to China.
Geographically
In my timeline:25 y, do not bother with europe africa or india ,
decreasing but not dead yet US.
If Biden side reelected,just forget it so soon decided.
China and SE Asia but hard and getting harder to tap.
Maximize OS exposuredo not expect a smooth ride.
Curently experiencing how hard it is to get out of Australia even before Taipei fall:2y and ticking, the option of pm coins,gun ammos and can of beans where i add permaculture and solar panels might be a good one.
 
And look at this:
Just last month ,and against USD which is going with 10% yearly real inflation

In the last month only,all your aud assets have fallen 4/74 or 5.5%.
Against a downward long trending currency i do not trust that much
 


No correction today, in fact we've had a big rebound. Omicron was a storm in a teacup.

Gee, who would have thought?


Combine that with OPEC opening the taps and it's full steam ahead again.
 
Turns out it was apple:

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Seems iphones hit market saturation and now all the pumpkin spice latte sippers need a new model to come out to open their daddy's wallets again.
It wasn't apple. It was docusign. -29% afterhours on earnings and earnings forecast. Will obviously be a massacre on open tomorrow.

I've been running docusign since I first bought into zoom early in the pandemic. It's been a thorn in my side the entire time.
 
And here's the massive friday selloff I predicted and there's still 5hrs to the close:



We've seen a good 2-3% move every single day this week giving a ~25% return with leveraged etf's simply buying on red days and selling on green.

Amazing.
 
Still plummeting:



I've bought a bit here, got another buy order in at the -3% mark too.

This has been an amazing week.
 
-40%:

 
Oh in case anyone's wondering why today's such a massacre, it's a combination of chinese tech crackdown and the jobs numbers coming in at 210k vs an estimated 550k, so missing massively.
 
I'm surprised you trade systems smurf, you've always struck me as more of a qualitative guy?
As a general rule you'd be spot on, that's exactly my approach.

As with anything in life though, having a look over the other side of the fence to see what's there is worth a go and so I'm giving it a go.

I should clarify that the % in cash I referred to is for the system trading account only, not for the rest.
 
Ahh, yeah that's different then.

You had me quite worried.
 
Ahh, yeah that's different then.

You had me quite worried.
My error there, I should have been more specific in the original post....

Off that subject though and looking at economic effects more broadly, the latest one seems to be concern about running short of urea.

Urea being used as an agricultural input as fertilizer plus along with demineralised water it's used as diesel exhaust fluid (DEF, more commonly known by the brand name AdBlue). Now the problem there is that whilst the purpose of DEF is to reduce exhaust emissions of NOx, machinery is programmed so that it can't be used without it. No DEF and the engine goes into limp mode.

Now it seems that there's a shortage of urea so that's going to further add to the supply chain woes if it means trucks stop running, farm machinery stops and so on. Plenty about it in the media and elsewhere at the moment.


 
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