Does Osama Bin Laden actually exist?

Great thread!

chops_a_must said:

I'd say he was dead before the trade centre attacks happened.

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and that maybe the case too . pretty hard to know what is actual truth or bullsheet these days aint it ?

nunthewiser said:

cheers , any thoughts on why he has not been caught yet ? considering the resorces the world has got for these sort of matters

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My guess is that he's probably dead. Remember reading a while ago that he was ill, and may have been in a near miss during a US strike. A few of his recent film clips that have been released show that there are some differing facial features.

Being that he is a great medium for Al Qaeda to issue threats (which is the reason this thread originally started), it is much better to have him appear alive than dead. There will be a time when they claim his death, and as a martyr figure, he would be even more dangerous.

If he is still alive, then makes you question how powerful the US technology is. Perhaps we've all been watching far too many spy movies?

My brother is a nurse in the renal failure ward which is Bin Laden's heath problem.
He reckons Bin Laden must be dead by now.

Go Nun... Kennas, dont be so touchy!!

Here is my take: He IS REAL- and they COULD FIND HIM if they wanted to. They probably know where he is... maybe on a ranch somewhere in Austin, Texas???

In other words, it is not in the interests of the United States to find him and prosecute him, because the benefit of keeping the USA population in fear is greater with an arch enemy on the loose.

Off topic - Bo and Hope are back in Days of Our Lives? As well as Patch and Kayla! I watched this on school hols when I was a kid - and they dont look a bit different after 20 years! Geeezz!!!

Brad

Personally have no idea , alive /dead , who knows , Do know however that the use of his name is a very powereful tool and can create vast amounts of funds at any given moment to go towards the fight against this real or perceived enemy . a bit coincidental he has made another threat at this time just as bushy due to leave the building tho and maybe the new bloke thinking of withdrawing troops perhaps ?

buggared if i know

i DO know however that todays discussion has been intresting to say the least and glad it hasnt been closed off because of some of the heated debate

thanks

Well, likewise I have no idea if BL is still around or not, but the following is an insight to the origin of all this Islamic terrorism nonsense & why it may last regardless of BL.

The article was also published in SMH's Good Weekend on 11/10/03 under the title "The Terrorist Philosopher" an informative read if you can get through it.

The Philosopher of Islamic Terror

A lot of people here think just because America has some of the best technology in the world than it should be a breeze for them to locate OBL. The truth is that he is or was (maybe he really is dead, who knows) hiding in some really ruggered terrain, who's local inhabitants hate the Americans/West and have no desire to hand him over. Technology only works up to a point, and than you have to actually have people on the ground to go the extra distance. It is very difficult to buy informants and insert agents into such a hostile environment, both in geography and populous.
America is also aware that OBL is merely acting as a figure head now and his operational role has been virtually nil for many years now. They have plenty more important targets to chase after which will have more of disruptive effect on AQ than chasing after OBL. They know finding and or killing OBL will have next to no effect on reducing the threat of AQ so why would they bother with such a difficult undertaking. It would be like a trading wasting valuable time on researching a company that isn't listed and one that he can't profit from.