Does Gillard inspire confidence?

sails · 6 August 2010

DocK said:
Come on now sails, say it with me - she'll ignore it and "move forward"

Haha, DocK. No doubt she will with that thin, twisted smile.

Yeah, I'm convinced that the whole "moving forward" thing is a reminder to herself to keep well away from all the stuff-ups. Not a peep about East Timor anymore - and that was a huge stuff-up (IMO!) that she made AFTER the last government lost it's way...

Unfortunately, I was married to a con artist for a number of years before I found out what he was up to. When I eventually found out, he hated being reminded of his history and had the "moving forward" mentality. Perhaps that's why Gillard sickens me so much.

todster · 6 August 2010

Libs might be getting a little cocky letting little Johnny out of the cricket dressing rooms during the campaign.
Can you imagine Tony Rabbit on the world stage ar ur um least Gillard can put a sentence together.

sails · 6 August 2010

todster said:
Libs might be getting a little cocky letting little Johnny out of the cricket dressing rooms during the campaign.
Can you imagine Tony Rabbit on the world stage ar ur um least Gillard can put a sentence together.

I thought Tony has improved somewhat with his speech.

Some people aren't born with the gift of the gab, just like others that can't help that they are born with large earlobes.

I'm more concerned with party policy than Tony's ability to speak. At least he doesn't stutter.

Anyway, I have seen Gillard um and ah on more than one occasion - why just pick on Tony?

It's Snake Pliskin · 6 August 2010

todster said:
Libs might be getting a little cocky letting little Johnny out of the cricket dressing rooms during the campaign.
Can you imagine Tony Rabbit on the world stage ar ur um least Gillard can put a sentence together.

Gillard seems to be a boring obfuscating struggling in over her head type of image. She can't answer a question clearly without interjection from interviewers clarifying points. It was refreshing to see Howard speak again yesterday and it seems he thinks she is a failure.

moXJO · 6 August 2010

todster said:
least Gillard can put a sentence together.

Yeah with the most bogan sounding tones I have ever heard. I mean how can it not grate on your nerves everyti..... oh wait your from W.A, as you were

drsmith · 6 August 2010

explod said:
And that would be very good, the villiage idea would come back, large forms of transport would not be required and each group would become self sufficient again.

There was a doco on Iran last night on country life, the richness of life and food prodiced amazing and they all seemed happy.

Wonder about that, people in harmony and happy.

Here, our affluence gives us much more choice in the type of lifestyle that we live. If we try an alternative and discover the grass really isn't greener on the other side, then we can abandon it. That though is a choice I suspect the Greens don't want us to have and one they are unlikely to achieve for the majority as a whole. Their policies if implemented would simply be a road to the impoverishment of Australia. I dare them to demonstrate otherwise.

As for the above vision of utopia, I would also suggest that it would be very difficult to achieve for a number of reasons. For one, the self sufficient village model was a step in our evolution as a species. One which we have long since passed.

trainspotter · 6 August 2010

moXJO said:
Yeah with the most bogan sounding tones I have ever heard. I mean how can it not grate on your nerves everyti..... oh wait your from W.A, as you were

You mean the state that exports 60% of all of the nations total ....... oh wait we must be Cashed Up Bogans over here ? :

Julia · 6 August 2010

moXJO said:
Yeah with the most bogan sounding tones I have ever heard. I mean how can it not grate on your nerves everyti..... your from

And she changes the tone of voice and the accent according to which image she's presenting at the time. When she was dressed all in white, and trying to appear presidential (before she realised that wasn't working), her accent and tone were much less bogan, but then when she declared we were going to see the real Julia, then she was 'gunna' do stuff, and the voice became strident again. Horrible.

explod said:
And that would be very good, the villiage idea would come back, large forms of transport would not be required and each group would become self sufficient again.

There was a doco on Iran last night on country life, the richness of life and food prodiced amazing and they all seemed happy.

Wonder about that, people in harmony and happy.

Iran????? The people in harmony and happy???? One of the most oppressed societies in the world, fergawdsake!

Go greens

Not off topic, Julia has inspired me. (all three in fact)

Explod, in trying to understand that you seem to have some compulsion to put up contrary points of view just for the sake of so doing, I've thought maybe you're some kind person who always wants to defend the underdog.

But I'm coming to believe you are genuinely as naive as your above post indicates.

And the big worry is that there are probably lots more Australians just like you who have no idea of the havoc the Greens will wreak.

todster · 6 August 2010

moXJO said:
Yeah with the most bogan sounding tones I have ever heard. I mean how can it not grate on your nerves everyti..... oh wait your from W.A, as were

More Kath and KIm Victorian than your classic WA bogan differerent whine,more nasely anyway gotta go and park my v8 ute at the airport and off to the mine for 2 weeks,damn tv is not big enough need more cash

Calliope · 6 August 2010

moXJO said:
Yeah with the most bogan sounding tones I have ever heard. I mean how can it not grate on your nerves everyti..... oh wait your from W.A, as you were

Can you imagine her on the World stage sitting around the table with world leaders. It is a cringeworthy thought.

I don't think she could pull it off. I think she is getting cold feet at the thought, and is sucking up to Kevin to use him as a surrogate.

Calliope · 6 August 2010

Julia said:
Explod, in trying to understand that you seem to have some compulsion to put up contrary points of view just for the sake of so doing, I've thought maybe you're some kind person who always wants to defend the underdog.

But I'm coming to believe you are genuinely as naive as your above post indicates.

And the big worry is that there are probably lots more Australians just like you who have no idea of the havoc the Greens will wreak.

Julia, I think you have summed up this guy in a nutshell. Anyone who votes Green is not only naive, but irresponsible.

todster · 6 August 2010

Calliope said:
Geeen voters are acting irresponsibly and they cannot change. They say their aim is to ruin the the industries that kept us afloat during the GFS.

But I would like to ask any Labor supporters on this forum how they can equate preferencing the Greens to give them control of the Senate with moving Australia forward. Is this being responsible?

Remember the Greens rejected Rudd's ETS in the Senate because it did not harm the coal and energy industries and the consumers enough for their liking.

Industries like BP? how would you like that washing up on the Sunshine coast
Irresponsible,if you took your foot out of your mouth sometime you might just see out of the other eye,some people dont give a rats about big business and thats there choice,like the poor miners have you seen Rio tintos profit.

explod · 6 August 2010

Calliope said:
Julia, I think you have summed up this guy in a nutshell. Anyone who votes Green is not only naive, but irresponsible.

I do not agree with a great deal of green's policy but have found it the only party (at this time) that may bring the changes in the future needed to cope with the planet that is now changing at break neck speed.

So my role is to try to help change policies to be realistic and achievable. I say for example that we may have to still burn some coal for awhile. The greens will achive nought unless they become more realistic. Heady long term visions are one thing, and I aspire to some of those, but the here and now and the getting to them is the connundrum I toss with.

I work quietly a great deal in other areas so do not have the time sometimes to put in here. But yes Julia I do try to keep people guessing as I learn more about them that way.

And thanks Julia, you are inspiring and always taking an active interest in the different facits to the debates without prejudice.

Logique · 6 August 2010

It's Snake Pliskin said:
Gillard seems to be a boring obfuscating struggling in over her head type of image.

I was thinking that if the ALP loses, I will feel some genuine sympathy for Julia Gillard. No I have not morphed into Andrew Bolt.

The ALP machine men have got their hooks into her, the lines are recited word for word. No question is answered directly. You here this faint whirring...launch spin menu...smokescreen launched. Sorry Kerry O'Brien, your national current affairs program is just here as a stage for my recitations. All concocted by the backroom boys.

It's this teflon-coated, wave the magic wand, magical dissolving of the embarassing immediate past.

All silver moonbeams now, we'll move forward together on gossamer wings. But in the real world you can't get away with that forever, sooner or later you are found out. This will happen whether the ALP win or not.

Julia Gillard has real abilities and talents (if not necessarily in public administration), but she has been very poorly advised, both politically and personally, by the ruthless ALP machine. They picked their mark, here was strong ambition wanting an opportunity.

drsmith · 6 August 2010

explod said:
I do not agree with a great deal of green's policy but have found it the only party (at this time) that may bring the changes in the future needed to cope with the planet that is now changing at break neck speed.

Do you agree with an effective tax rate of 66.5% on profit from resources as proposed by the Greens ?

explod said:
So my role is to try to help change policies to be realistic and achievable. I say for example that we may have to still burn some coal for awhile. The greens will achive nought unless they become more realistic. Heady long term visions are one thing, and I aspire to some of those, but the here and now and the getting to them is the connundrum I toss with.

The Greens too need to change their policy position to be more realistic and achievable in both a national and global context.

I won't consider voting for them in any capacity until they articulate projected outcomes from their policies.

Logique · 6 August 2010

Bizarre this talk of three leaders now, ie two Labor leaders.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-but-one-to-lead/story-e6frgd0x-1225901825100 (From Dennis Shanahan)

In six weeks, Labor has dumped Kevin 07 as leader because he was unpopular, installed Gillard because she was popular, changed strategy and Gillard's image to the "real Julia" because the false, campaigning Julia was unpopular and now turned to Kevin 10 because the real Julia was unpopular.

It's about time Labor stopped switching images and leaders and started to say where it stands on a range of policies which are unresolved except for negative attacks on Abbott.

Calliope · 6 August 2010

todster said:
Industries like BP? how would you like that washing up on the Sunshine coast
Irresponsible,if you took your foot out of your mouth sometime you might just see out of the other eye,some people dont give a rats about big business and thats there choice,like the poor miners have you seen Rio tintos profit.

So you're a Greenie. That explains your nonsense ranting and raving, but it doesn't excuse it.

Macquack · 6 August 2010

nulla nulla said:
If the real Tony Abbott opens his mouth and departs from the carefully prepared script he will lose. From this point, all he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let Julia Gillard self destruct.
It would appear that the knife attact on K Rudd was premature and the Australian populace isn't as ready and willing to forget this. The glamour of having a female prime minister was short lived and now the substance behind her is starting to pale.

This is what I would call "fair" comment.

Calliope should take note as it does not include any reference to Julia's length of nose, length of neck, length of ear lobes or the colour of her hair.

todster · 6 August 2010

Calliope said:
So you're a Greenie. That explains your nonsense ranting and raving, but it doesn't excuse it.

Vote green just to screw liberal zealots like you
Difference between you and a airbus?
The airbus stops whining when you shut down the engines.
If your ever in Perth come round and i will give you a hug,Gee i think you need one pops

Logique · 6 August 2010

Progress report on the BP oil spill:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Policy.aspx?Id=1383242

Feds: Almost 75% Of Oil From BP Gulf Spill Dispersed Or Recovered
8/4/2010 (4th August)

(RTTNews) - Federal officials said Wednesday that most of the oil from the now-capped leak in the Gulf of Mexico has already been dispersed or captured by cleanup efforts.

Speaking at a White House briefing, Jane Lubchenco, the administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, said that only about 26 percent of the estimated 4.9 million barrels of oil that spilled into the Gulf remained to be cleaned up.

"The vast majority of the oil has either evaporated or been burned, skimmed and recovered from the wellhead, or dispersed," she said. "And much of the dispersed oil is in the process of relatively rapid degradation."She added, "A significant amount of this is a direct result of the very robust federal response efforts."

Roughly 25 percent of the oil had evaporated or dissolved while an additional 16 percent had dispersed naturally, she said.

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