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For a change, I agree with SELL DMP recommendations.David Thornton: Hello and welcome to Buy Hold Sell. I’m your host, David Thornton. It’s been a pretty wild ride for stocks in 2022, but the ASX 200 is holding up pretty well.
Today, we’re going to discuss three of the best performing stocks in the 200, and also two laggards. For that, we’re joined by Anthony Aboud from Perpetual, and Sean Fenton from Sage Capital.
David Thornton: Okay. The other laggard, Domino’s. That one, Domino’s has not had a good time of it. It’s lost about two thirds of its value since September. Now sitting at $63. Buy, hold, or sell?
Anthony Aboud (SELL): I still think it’s a sell. I think that the market consistently overestimates these guys. This time last year for FY23, the market had $3 a share in EPS forecast. It’s now going to be just over $2. Our problem is in the short term we think franchisee profitability is going to be tough. They’ve got labour price going up. You got cost of goods sold from going up. And therefore, we think the rollout of stores is going to be tough, so the growth’s not going to be there and still 30 x PE. For us, it’s just not there yet, so we still think it’s a sell.
David Thornton: Sean, they’re rolling out stores. Is it a sell for you?
Sean Fenton (SELL): Yeah, I think it is. I’m finding myself agreeing with Anthony a lot today, I don’t know, it’s worrying me a little bit. But yeah, it was a bit of a COVID-19 beneficiary. It’s fallen a long way, but got ridiculously expensive. And what I’m just uncertain about is, as we open up normalisation, what happens to that pizza demand? They did really well in Japan, but it’s been a struggle longer term. How much of that does that turn around? And you’ve got cost pressure inflation there. Don’t forget they’ve got a delivery model. Drivers, labour, petrol, pizza, wheat, cheese, dairy, pepperoni, it’s all going up. Yeah, a bit of margin pressure and a fair bit of uncertainty. It’s just not cheap enough to get excited about.
As an end user like me who has been using them constantly for 20 years or so I've got a few laymen's words to say. If DMP hasn't failed after all these years with all the crashes/wars/pandemics then I think there is very little chance of any collapse in the future. They could have come across as a "race to the bottom" company with their prices in the past but this has changed now. They have moved their prices up from around $14 a traditional pizza to around $17 in the last 12 Months. They have also cut back a lot of buy one get free type of offers too. I can tell as a consumer that they have factored in all the price increases for their ingredients and I feel as though they are protecting their business. They still offer a reasonable product and I still use them and hope they will be a profitable company for shareholders, good luck mate.One of my picks for the 2023 full year competition.
My reasoning is simply that as economic conditions become somewhat tighter, I'm expecting consumers to shift preferences to cheaper options and that's exactly what DMP offers. It's product is price competitive with direct competitors, and is cheap versus most alternatives.
That plus the share price is somewhat beaten up at present.
The reasonable product, was always very ordinary, however their recent changes that you mentioned, see's quite a different product. It's now smaller and of a further reduced quality.. They still offer a reasonable product and I still use them
Italian baked beans too, $1 a can at zat supermarket chain owned by zee Germans, yah.Baked beans, yum, eh frugs
Honestly, even Domino pizzas appear to be cheap after using all those discount coupons but no one buys pizzas every night. When I compared the quality of pizza available from local pizza shops @$25 or so, I will never buy a Domino pizza. It is quality and just not cheapy.Dumping further.
Closing 70 outlets worldwide.
30 of those in Denmark; a total exit from Denmark.
If only their pizzas were nice!
Their up against wood fired tarte flambee or flammkuchen over there... nothing like a nice Alsatian tarte.
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For us and we like pizzas that Dominos was a so so, to bad product. The few times we bought one, it was never cooked properly, and the staff didn't like being told so.Honestly, even Domino pizzas appear to be cheap after using all those discount coupons but no one buys pizzas every night. When I compared the quality of pizza available from local pizza shops @$25 or so, I will never buy a Domino pizza. It is quality and just not cheapy.
This is one of the big issues with Domino's Fall - people want quality and not numbers.
DNH DMP but this is why I did not invest in DMP stocks - walking the talk.
it's official... nothing to see here. (3 day long weekend to hit up mates)Can't wait till the mgmt margin calls?
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