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ONLY 14 per cent of Australians die at home, despite seven in 10 wishing to do so, according to a report which has renewed calls for changes in policies and attitudes to enable people to see out their days with greater dignity.
The Grattan Institute’s Dying Well report found about half of Australians die in hospitals, and a third die in residential care.
The results place Australia at odds with other prosperous Western nations, with Australians dying at home at half the rate of their counterparts in countries including the US, New Zealand, Ireland and France.
Report co-author Hal Swerissen said the report highlighted the need for medical and community attitudes to change.
He said contrary to common assumptions, formal, home-based end-of-life care was often cheaper than institutional care.
“More than at any time in history, most people die when they are old, and are more likely than past generations to know when in the near future they are going to die,” Professor Swerissen said.
“That gives us a great opportunity to help people plan to die well ”” but we’re not taking it.”
The report recommended greater communication between those approaching the end of their life and family, friends and health professionals. It found the lack of such communication leads to people feeling disconnected and confused about the range of services available.
The authors also called for the widespread adoption of *advance care plans to ensure people’s end-of-life desires are met, as well as greater investment in community-based care to shift the focus from cures and *institutional care to supporting people’s wishes to die at home.
There needs to be much, much more discussion about the whole topic of old age and dying.
A bit off topic , but I notice that Phillip Nitschke is at it again, recommending that long term prisoners be given the option of euthanasia.
I don't know why he would go down that track considering he started off wanting to assist the terminally ill
Does he want to get into the executioner business ?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-...d-be-given-euthanasia-option-nitschke/5775680
Of course. But there's plenty of attention given regarding how to live a good life, how to make the most of what one has etc.I don't think so, Julia.
Death comes only once per customer, but we each have 2 Billion or more seconds to live and cherish.
Therefore, I strongly believe it is far more important to discuss questions of a healthy and satisfying lifestyle. Done well and with empathy, we can assist fellow men (and women) many times over whenever someone finds it hard to decide which way to take at any of life's T-junctions.
Yes, agree completely. Had it not been for Phillip Nitschke we would not have reached even the point we have about being able to make personal choices about dying.I'd rather see the common theme as "quality of life".
We banish criminals from society; that may or may not be the best solution for them, but it most definitely is the best solution for their otherwise next victim. It may also be argued that prisoners shouldn't be "rewarded" with luxuries and easy living behind bars, lest it becomes an incentive to "early retirement".
So, if an inmate considers life behind bars a life not worth living, why not give him the freedom to opt out.
I have always seen personal choice and freedom as Dr Nitschke's main issue. That he started with the terminally ill would have to be seen as the thin end of the wedge that a majority of affected Australians will support. What the question really boils down to is the extent of personal freedom and responsibility. I find it paradoxical to tell somebody, you are fully responsible for your actions and their consequences, but then deny them responsibility for their life.
There does seem to be an increasing awareness of acknowledging and assisting the desire of people to die at home. It would be cheaper than absorbing all the costs of a hospital.
Sad, but true, MW;Cheaper yes
Accessible no
When working in the hospital, it staggers me the amount of cost shifting / shuffling in extremely inefficient ways. These people have no idea how to efficiently run a business / service.
The stupid thing with public hospitals is that there is one group of health professionals who call most of the shots, and their viewpoint is well looked after, but bugger the rest, and the patients along with them.
The other thing is that eg for palliative care, why would a practitioner go it alone in the community with limited support?
The health system is totally hindered by people who don't believe that it should be run as a business.
MW
I don't know much about the accessibility and am going by reports that - with the baby boomers eventually reaching old age - there will be a requirement for a whole different approach to aged care. That's going to be some while away (I hope) and I've accepted the suggestion that governments will pay more attention to providing decent home care plans, even if they have to be partly paid for by the individual.Cheaper yes
Accessible no
Well, I suppose that would have to change, or alternatively hospitals could expand to running an in-home palliative care system. It does happen to some extent now but is grossly inadequate.The other thing is that eg for palliative care, why would a practitioner go it alone in the community with limited support?
Sounds appalling. Are there no alternatives? Here most of the nursing homes have single, ensuite rooms, some with doors opening to small terrace, about ten of which are grouped around a central living area and kitchen. This pattern is replicated probably ten times throughout the institution.I can't blame her for refusing to move into the Care Facility, which is organised and run as a one-size-fits-all at the level of Dementia patients: No privacy; no personal items like phone, computer, mementos; organised "entertainment"; piped music.
If his enemies haven't had him completely criminalised by then. And he's not going to be able to write you a neat little prescription for a lethal dose of a barbiturate. Unless I've missed something about what he is and is not able to do, he can only tell you the appropriate dose of Nembutal which you then need to travel to Mexico etc and find a veterinary supplies shop which will sell it to you.Should I deteriorate into a similar situation, not have a carer willing to push my wheelchair, help change the linen, or help me socialise with at least one or two "sane" people, I'm sure I'd also seek "treatment" from Dr Nitschke.
OK, I understand what you mean now.PS: Julia, I don't consider the above so much a discussion about dying, but still as planning for years of living. Making decisions for how I want to live under various hypothetical conditions is IMHO part of future life planning. To me, that includes making a Will, signing an EPA and instructions for medical practitioners in case of permanent disablement etc. But let's not debate semantics; if you consider that's a discussion about death and dying, by all means let's do it under this topic.
There is, however, as I'd have expected, minimal interest in the topic it seems. Also it becomes rather too personal for comfort if pursued much further than this, for me at least.
The report recommended greater communication between those approaching the end of their life and family, friends and health professionals. It found the lack of such communication leads to people feeling disconnected and confused about the range of services available.
The authors also called for the widespread adoption of advance care plans to ensure people’s end-of-life desires are met, as well as greater investment in community-based care to shift the focus from cures and institutional care to supporting people’s wishes to die at home.
It makes sense to me, but as you say there is minimal interest.
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