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Some do gooder will come on here and say after 6 months, 1 year, 3 years or whatever locked up, what did you expect?

I say when the navy intercepts these boats in open waters, the boat & people should be sunk. No one in Oz needs to now about it.

Would stop the damn pesky fleas overnight.
 
Judd said:
I believe you will find that more illegals have and will come through our airports than arrive via boats. Personally I wouldn't have the guts to travel to Oz by boat given the quality of the vessels used. Far easier to do a runner through air travel.
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I believe that I won't find that more illegals come by air than boat. According to the Australian Federal Police the majority of illegal immigrants arriving in Australia at the moment are coming by boat from Indonesia.

Also, the people who come here through our airports have documentation with them (as opposed to the ones who come by boat who mostly don't). I fail to see how it is easy to do a runner when the government has your details.

Anyway, even if it were true (which it's not), what does it have to do with the current discussion? In my opinion all the above comments regarding this topic are still just as valid.
 
Think you are right Judd I know of 2 cases were women were sponsored by victims to walk in to OZ at the airport do their 2 yrs and then become 100% OZ with migration supporting them over OZ men born in the place.. While you vote it will never change hold your vote until some one wakes up and delivers commonsense.
 
Rubber bullets, tear gas, zip lock ties.

Free plane trip, dumped on runway at country of origin still bound.

simple really.
 
I say when the navy intercepts these boats in open waters, the boat & people should be sunk. No one in Oz needs to now about it.

Would stop the damn pesky fleas overnight.
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Rubber bullets, tear gas, zip lock ties.

Free plane trip, dumped on runway at country of origin still bound.

simple really.
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Are we talking about men, women and children here or some sort of other world non-human vermin that need to be eradicated like lice or rats? Perhaps some forum members would opt for a final solution perhaps? As long as its done quietly of course.

After all we are honest to goodness Australians....:eek::eek:

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Not happy.
 
Glen48 said:
Think you are right Judd I know of 2 cases were women were sponsored by victims to walk in to OZ at the airport do their 2 yrs and then become 100% OZ with migration supporting them over OZ men born in the place.. While you vote it will never change hold your vote until some one wakes up and delivers commonsense.
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Maybe. I just look at the data on the boat arrivals since 1976

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bn/sp/boatarrivals.htm#_Toc285178607

And the Dept of Immigration stats indicating that there some 50,000 illegal immigrants not including the boat arrivals. I assume that the number includes those who deliberately overstay their 457 visa's and stuff like that.

I don't happen to agree with the destruction at the Villawood detention centre but if you're angry enough and frustrated enough with a decision or the length of time it takes to make a decision, yeah, I suppose it would be easy enough to do your nar nah. However, once you have done that, you had better be prepared for the consequences because there will be such.
 
BigAl said:
I say when the navy intercepts these boats in open waters, the boat & people should be sunk. No one in Oz needs to now about it.

Would stop the damn pesky fleas overnight.
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basilio said:
Are we talking about men, women and children here or some sort of other world non-human vermin that need to be eradicated like lice or rats?
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It's alright bas, they have brown skin and worship the wrong god. They're not like us.
 
You can't see the good points: Man meets Mail order bride on Net Telstra makes money, Male loads up bankcard, banks make money, Male get gift's flys over seas gift shops airlines make money

Male pays Migration fee or migration agent money all make money, She comes here with 's one intention to get a free trip to OZ airlines , taxi's, hotels ,make money,

She finds the best legal minds of migration that is those who speak her language and goes off and get pregnant then a whole new world is open to her

Male thinks his life is turning around spends money on baby items, She hang in the marriage for a few years then apply for legal aid after all she is foreign and not OZ citizen so are entitled to more,

She get translator/lawyer get a divorce get 50%+ of the assets and Commonwealth Suicide Assistance aka CSA lawyers make money CSA employes more females,. She now owns your family's assets kids and Father fight her, more money for lawyers , courts taxi's hotels etc.

Having to pay CSA to some woman who won't let him see his child/s, Police time doing DVA's /AVO's she has done up to keep him away, court time, the male could be in jail more warden's more money,money

Male can't work and pay CSA so goes on the dole, at his age has to start again with nothing.
He suicides undertaker make money the money the taxpayer would have paid to him in his pension now supports her.

She works undercover and lives on nothing. Chinese restaurant gets cheap labour we get cheap meals more money to go around.

Why not come to the Lucky ( for Some ) country
Who looses Australia, Taxpayer and the victim all the rest have taken his blood.
 
The asylum seekers and economic queue skipping migrants in detention, are behaving as any normal person would.

Faced with a queue for citizenship, they act out, to advance their individual or family cause.

This is understandable.

What is not acceptable is the theory driven Green/Socialist agenda that says that all who wish to settle in Australia, should be allowed to do so.

Historians of the future will excoriate the ALP and the Socialist/Greens for this stain on Australia.

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One thing that does not sit well with me is that many of the "refugees" are reasonably young Afghan males who are coming here expecting a better life while our soldiers are dying over there fighting for the Afghans' freedom.

I would prefer they are back there supporting our troops so that less of ours may die fighting for the Afghanis.
 
Glen48 said:
You can't see the good points: Man meets Mail order bride on Net Telstra makes money, Male loads up bankcard, banks make money, Male get gift's flys over seas gift shops airlines make money

Male pays Migration fee or migration agent money all make money, She comes here with 's one intention to get a free trip to OZ airlines , taxi's, hotels ,make money,

She finds the best legal minds of migration that is those who speak her language and goes off and get pregnant then a whole new world is open to her

Male thinks his life is turning around spends money on baby items, She hang in the marriage for a few years then apply for legal aid after all she is foreign and not OZ citizen so are entitled to more,

She get translator/lawyer get a divorce get 50%+ of the assets and Commonwealth Suicide Assistance aka CSA lawyers make money CSA employes more females,. She now owns your family's assets kids and Father fight her, more money for lawyers , courts taxi's hotels etc.

Having to pay CSA to some woman who won't let him see his child/s, Police time doing DVA's /AVO's she has done up to keep him away, court time, the male could be in jail more warden's more money,money

Male can't work and pay CSA so goes on the dole, at his age has to start again with nothing.
He suicides undertaker make money the money the taxpayer would have paid to him in his pension now supports her.

She works undercover and lives on nothing. Chinese restaurant gets cheap labour we get cheap meals more money to go around.

Why not come to the Lucky ( for Some ) country
Who looses Australia, Taxpayer and the victim all the rest have taken his blood.
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LOL and to think you could of avoided all that in the first place if you had just moved to the philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Panama, Ecuador etc years ago. :)
 
Country Lad said:
One thing that does not sit well with me is that many of the "refugees" are reasonably young Afghan males who are coming here expecting a better life while our soldiers are dying over there fighting for the Afghans' freedom.

I would prefer they are back there supporting our troops so that less of ours may die fighting for the Afghanis.
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Yes exactly. I have been stating this on more than one occassion in previous posts and in our local newspaper.
I also stated previously, if they refuse to go back and do their bit, tattoo a white feather on their arms and still send them back as cowards.
 
I don't believe that those who are still sitting on the roof, apparently being supplied with food and water, should be allowed to carry on. The police should be told to get them off and they should then be taken to Silverwater, put in jail with those already being held there, and charged.

Unless this pathetic government makes a definitive move against this behaviour, it will spread, further encouraging more arrivals to a land which offers impunity to the criminal actions of arson and assault.

Why on earth are these people being indulged in being allowed to stay on the roof?
 
I agree Julia. What next will be set alight if they think they can thumb their noses at Australia?

I didn't think criminals could become Aussie citizens - doesn't this ruin their chances? But then, we have a spineless labor government who may not have the fortitude to deal with this effectively.
 
After the December 2009 riot on Christmas Island 11 boatpeople were charged. Of these, eight had their charges dismissed. Three were convicted, two being placed on a good behaviour bond and one fined. Each of these three were granted a visa late last year.

Defies belief really doesn't it? If that's not encouraging bad behaviour I don't know what is! Plus, it's an open invitation to the asylum seekers to demand what they want.
 
startrader said:
After the December 2009 riot on Christmas Island 11 boatpeople were charged. Of these, eight had their charges dismissed. Three were convicted, two being placed on a good behaviour bond and one fined. Each of these three were granted a visa late last year.

Defies belief really doesn't it? If that's not encouraging bad behaviour I don't know what is! Plus, it's an open invitation to the asylum seekers to demand what they want.
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I couldn't believe this either when I read it. However, the op ed piece by Paul Kelly in today's "The Weekend Australian" sheds some light on the government's difficulties in this regard. Too complicated to go into here, but to do with pretty complicated legislation re character test.

If Labor were not so stupidly spineless they would simply change the legislation.
The Libs would soon get it fixed.

I can remember thinking that Chris Bowen might be a half decent Prime Minister.
Have since changed my mind in the light of his pathetic floundering and inaction in the present circumstances.
 
Julia said:
I couldn't believe this either when I read it. However, the op ed piece by Paul Kelly in today's "The Weekend Australian" sheds some light on the government's difficulties in this regard. Too complicated to go into here, but to do with pretty complicated legislation re character test.

If Labor were not so stupidly spineless they would simply change the legislation.
The Libs would soon get it fixed.

I can remember thinking that Chris Bowen might be a half decent Prime Minister.
Have since changed my mind in the light of his pathetic floundering and inaction in the present circumstances.
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Well I cannot resist to comment that Chris Bowen has far less personality than Barnaby Joyce to have any leadership qualities. Bowen is full of himself and lies through his teeth to save his own skin on the numerous mistakes he has made.

Pleased to read you have changed your mind on Bowen for he is an absolute twerp.
 
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