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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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Are any of the three drugs Dr Zelenko reports - unavailable or costly in Australia? I doubt it:
- Hydroxychloroquine 200mg
- Azithromycin 500mg
- Zinc sulfate 220mg
Am I wrong, wouldn't the next step be - to conduct our own domestic trials of Dr Zelenko's New Jersey results?
 
The FDA have only granted emergency powers so they’ll be watching this closely in controlled trials.
They’d then need to approve it’s widespread use.
Think we have 2 trials going here.
 
I will simply say that if this is true then it would seem that the only option is for the rest of the world to take a far more aggressive stance against China:

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...9/news-story/104a81601ff7b94fec6dae3e158ad0a1


If China's government wants to fuel anti-China sentiment then this is a sure fire way to do it.

Shut these ******* things down without delay.
 
W.A seems to be getting on top of the outbreak, except for all the new cases inherited from that cruise ship.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...rd-boarder-closure-to-eastern-states/12101852
From the article:
Western Australia will bring in an "unprecedented" hard border closure and use police drones to help enforce strict new public gathering rules to help contain the coronavirus outbreak, the state's Premier announced today.
The measures came as the number of new cases of COVID-19 reported in the state continued to fall, a result Premier Mark McGowan labelled "remarkable".

Mr McGowan said the impending border closure option was more palatable than enforcing further punishing shutdowns on WA businesses.

"Instead of going down the path of forcing more businesses to shut, we've decided to go down the path of harder border closures," he said.

"The health advice is that given the situation over east, especially in New South Wales, a harder border closure is supported to prevent the importation of the virus from other states.
He said the move was designed to prevent Western Australia having to take a more extreme position in terms of shutdowns that may happen in other states.

"I am reluctant to introduce additional or severe measures that would see more businesses forced to close and more jobs lost," Mr McGowan said.

"Striking this balance is not easy … dealing with this crisis is not just about saving lives, it's also about saving livelihoods.
WA Chief Health Officer Andrew Robertson said over the past few days — excluding the confirmed cases on the Artania cruise ship — the number of new cases in WA had dropped.

The Premier of W.A said, while the travel ban may not be implemented immediately, he wanted to make it clear that people from the eastern states should not try to come to WA.

"There is a clear message to any interstater thinking about coming to Western Australia — don't come, we don't want you here," he said.
 
bellenuit said:
We seen this from other sources, but this is the take from The Guardian.

Senior WHO adviser appears to dodge question on Taiwan's Covid-19 response

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-dodge-question-on-taiwans-covid-19-response
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Rather than continue to muck rake, arm yourself with the facts.
How did Taiwan manage to write to the WHO on 31 December about COVID-19 when that information had only been sent to the WHO's regional office in China at that stage?
In the improbable event they had knowledge, somehow, then the questions they posed had already been answered. This was available on 31 December to anyone who wanted to know, and makes a mockery of the claims and questions from Taiwan.
Taiwan gets everything that the WHO sends out to all member nations and seems to be upset that because most nations of the world (including Australia and the USA) adopt a one China policy (which incorporates Taiwan) it's excellent efforts are being overlooked.
 
W.A is taking things seriously, and proposing serious penalties for people who don't take it seriously.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...r-jail-terms-and-electronic-tracking/12104286
From the article:
A crackdown on people who cough or spit at police officers or medical staff in Western Australia could see offenders jailed for up to 10 years, under legislation to go before State Parliament this week.
The measure is part of several coronavirus-related provisions the Government wants debated urgently in State Parliament this week, including a proposal to use tracking bracelets on people who do not self-isolate.

It follows reports of people coughing or spitting at doctors, nurses and police officers while claiming to have COVID-19.
 
I suppose now the flow of people into the Country and general movement around the Country has slowed, test kits can be deployed more accurately to areas of outbreaks, which in turn should give a better idea of the severity of the spread.
Just a thought.
 
Where's your proof?
You have nothing. WHO denied Taiwan even existed as a separate entity.

Speaking to reporters in Taipei, the island's Centres for Disease Control chief Chou Jih-haw said that it written to the WHO and China as early as Dec 31, asking for information about the newly uncovered virus outbreak in China's Wuhan province, including whether there was human-to-human transmission.

"We asked them whether there's a possibility of human-to-human transmission. We indeed asked them and reminded them of the matter," Chou said. He said the WHO confirmed it had received the letter but did not respond to it.
The WHO, in a statement to Reuters, did not directly address the issue of Taiwan being ignored, but said its office in China was informed of the "pneumonia of unknown cause" on Dec 31.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...d19-taiwan-world-health-organization-12571150

Ahhh "Robbie Facts".


On Dec. 31, the same day China notified the World Health Organization that it had several cases of an unknown pneumonia, Taiwan’s Centers for Disease Control immediately ordered inspections of passengers arriving on flights from Wuhan.

And despite poor relations with Beijing, Taiwan asked and received permission to send a team of experts to the mainland on a fact-finding mission Jan. 12.

“They didn’t let us see what they didn’t want us to see, but our experts sensed the situation was not optimistic,” government spokesperson Kolas Yotaka told NBC News.

Shortly after the team returned, Taiwan began requiring hospitals to test for and report cases. That helped the government identify those infected, trace their contacts and isolate everyone involved, preventing the virus from spreading to the community.


All this happened long before Taiwan confirmed its first case Jan. 21 and the rest of the world became alarmed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/what-taiwan-can-teach-world-fighting-coronavirus-n1153826
 
I bet the AMA aren't happy about this door being opened, they have kept a tight lock on it, since Adam was a boy.

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/6704607/nsw-pharmacy-changes-to-help-tackle-virus/?cs=7
From the article:
NSW pharmacists can now dispense medicines without a prescription and operate 24/7 under new measures introduced to help combat the spread of coronavirus.

Health Minister Brad Hazzard says a special authority has been granted to pharmacists to help people who can't access their GP.
 


Wife just back from local Woolies very low numbers shelves mostly stocked
 
W.A numbers still falling, not out of the woods, but worst case scenario seems to be diminishing. The problem will be keeping new infections out of the State, while it is still active over East. Still, even if we tighten the noose State by State, eventually we will stop it IMO.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...n-western-australia-increase-by-nine/12105922

Initially we were talking about running out of ICU beds by 8th April, so it is certainly looking better than that, thankfully.
 

Obviously the testing has taken a step down from international, to national movement.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...ates-covid-19-australia-restrictions/12104716
From the article:
A plane from Sydney to Adelaide has been turned back in mid-air after a cluster of coronavirus cases among Qantas baggage handlers prompted health officials to recommend travellers wipe down their bags and suitcases.

Australia now has more than 4,500 cases of COVID-19 but the rate at which cases are increasing has fallen.
 
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