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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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about hydroxychloroquine
A pathetic case in France:
This is an antimalarial product widely used worldwide
In January this medicine has been de-registered by the french Health minister who is married to a French medicine mandarin. Reason was resistant malaria strains..fair
That husband is in full ego battle for position, etc with another Marseilles top medicine mandarin who is using that product and has claimed to have saved numerous lifes in Marseille with it
With a bit of evidences, as well as Chinese precedents
The Marseille top hospital guy is not a no one : top awards , in the virus field, etc etc, we would compare with a Brisbane/Melbourne top health research professor
Their bitter war was prior to the virus and the health minister did not attend the Marseilles public funded new lab opening (public money) so bad is this internal war....
So the Health minister is now requesting a study to prove that compound is not dangerous, remember it has been used for 75y + as antimalarial. I used it during trips to Borneo 10y ago or so
This is the world we live in...
This is creating a huge public opinion backlash but the government does not bulge..and you thought our LNP Labour war was bad. It is not even political...
People are queuing at the Marseille hospital to get that potentially life saving medicine
The final irony: the laboratory which used to produce this compound in France was being closed as its production was being moved to China by the big Sanofi group..
Where do I put the crying meme??
 
a little exploration :
based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
Italy got 1k cases 29/02, moved to 2600 on 3rd of march; (3 days or so later)
here we are just 3 weeks behind;
1k cases 21/03 reached 2600 cases yesterday so 4 days later similar overall so we can expect italian situation in 3 weeks I expect death rate slightly lower due to younger population but ICU overloaded anyway
if comparing with France..younger population:
France 1k cases 8th of March; 2600 11 or 12th of March: slower than Italy/Australia;
France is 2 weeks before us:
so in 2 weeks (9th of April) expect over 1000 deaths here just figures..I try not to think about the human cost behind
 
Just did a skype session with my grand daughter with her school work. Mum photographed the work sent it to me and I connected on Skype and chatted and tested her. Enjoyable.
I even got some of it right, but lets hope it doesn't continue next year, I gonna struggle when she is in year 4.
Might look up some resources from distance learning. Any tips?
 
Coronavirus: Iceland’s mass testing finds half of
carriers show no symptoms
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As the coronavirus pandemic surges worldwide, each piece of data counts in the fight against the deadly pathogen.

But significant findings about the contagious disease are coming from an unlikely place: Iceland, the tiny Island state with a population of just 364,000 people, where authorities are testing large numbers of the population – without imposing any lockdown or curfew.

As of Sunday night, the country’s health authorities and the biotechnology firm deCode Genetics have tested more than 10,300 people. That might not sound like a large number, compared to the around 350,000 Americans who have been tested for coronavirus according to the COVID Tracking Project, but it is a far higher percentage of tests per population - a ratio Icelandic authorities have claimed is the highest in the world.

But it is not just the numbers of people being tested that is unusual about Iceland’s approach.

Unlike other countries, where people are only tested if they exhibit symptons of coronavirus or have come into contact with known spreaders, the country is testing thousands of people from the general population who don’t exhibit any symptoms of the virus whatsoever – helping to reveal information about the nature of the pathogen and its symptoms.

While Iceland has only 218 confirmed cases among its tiny population, its testing program has produced crucial data about the coronavirus - that half of those who were tested positive has no coronavirus symptoms.

This confirms multiple pieces of scientific research that have shown that coronavirus is spread more through people with the virus who show no sign of being sick. Researchers from The University of Texas at Austin had found out that more than 10 percent of patients were infected by somebody who has the virus but does not yet have symptoms.

“Early results from deCode Genetics indicate that a low proportion of the general population has contracted the virus and that about half of those who tested positive are non-symptomatic,” Thorolfur Guðnason, Iceland’s chief epidemiologist, was quoted as saying BuzzFeed News. “The other half displays very moderate cold-like symptoms.”​

 
moXJO said:
It's banned in certain countries as it made malaria mutate, or something
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I don't know it was banned for mutation of the parasite. For a long time I understood the following was the issue with Malaria. Why it has been so difficult to eradicate. Add to that it is a tropical disease in difficult to manage sometimes inhospitable environments.
Malaria parasite transforms itself to hide from human immune system
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/duraisingh-malaria-parasite-transforms/
 
The scary thing that is a known fact is IMO, it hasn't mutated, that would have to be considered weird when you consider the amount of hosts it has jumped through. Also children still aren't overly represented in the mortality rate, when you consider they have an immature immune system.
Just my opinion.
 
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I am not aware of any deaths of children! But if you are 70 or over the death rate is quite high.From what I have read basically if you get symptoms in that age group (not asymptomatic) you have a 15% of dying within 3 weeks..
Frankly if you are in this age group or like me have parents in this age group you don't want to go the Italy/USA route.

By the way, it has changed as it travels through different hosts, the essential structure is stable, not unusual.
 
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Interesting article DB008 and some salient points:

"...a far higher percentage of tests per population - a ratio Icelandic authorities have claimed is the highest in the world...half of those who were tested positive has no coronavirus symptoms....
..about half of those who tested positive are non-symptomatic,” Thorolfur Guðnason, Iceland’s chief epidemiologist,.. “The other half displays very moderate cold-like symptoms.."
 
I think the US will have to try a bit harder to stay on top of the CORVID 19 chart. There could be stiff competition from Brazil when Trumps mate Bolsanaro lets it all rip.

But Trump is certainly leading the way. If he can convince enough supporters that he is indeed the Son of God and will lead the Easter resurrection with a million strong campaign rally on Easter Sunday there should be no problem at all in reaching 50 million converts by the end of April.
 
Off topic, but remember when we were fattest nation......
Good times.
 
moXJO said:
Off topic, but remember when we were fattest nation......
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Could actually turn out to be a health advantage if we're all locked inside for a few weeks and can't get food.

The body will use up the fat to keep going wont it?
 
bellenuit said:
Good on you Trump. You have made the US Number 1 again.
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The cynic in me thinks that Trump doesn't really think the US will be open for business by the 12th of April and the statement was really just a way to ignite a rally in the stock market. A rally that'll top out just before that date as it becomes apparent that it's not going to happen.
 
Just saw a driver training instructor, in a car with the learner, difficult to keep the 1.5 m space, unless they strap a chair to the outside of the passenger door.
 
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