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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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MrChow said:
Swine Flu vaccine was available in October after the outbreak started in April and saved the US and Europe from the 2nd wave peaking again in flu season.

Not sure how they got it done so quick if this will take 12-18 months?
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Just a random thought but swine flu, or pig flu, also occurs in pigs doesn't it?

Does that mean they could have tested the vaccine on pigs and sped things up?

Just a thought, I could be completely wrong.
 
Logique said:
Big wrap to IGA, Coles and Woolies for instituting the pensioners/seniors only shopping hour.

I do think they were all a bit slow off the mark with purchase limits, which should have been placed on toilet paper purchases especially, weeks ago
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Coles said they were taking on 5000 extra staff.

My wish (and even these will be spread pretty thinly)
- 1000 to repack shelves
- 2000 to clean and wipe continuously
- 2000 as security.

And Woolies closing 8pm all stores, so they can get stuff on the shelves overnight
 

All casuals
No holidays
No sickies
No penalty rates but jobs are jobs these days,Coles and Woolies must be creaming it
 

Drat...................but I really do think that a bit of positive news from those who have recovered will settle the hysteria down a lot.

Maybe some enterprising journo could interview a few and cream the ratings
 
moXJO said:
A lot of chatter that we may be going into lockdown soon.
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My observation is that it's definitely happening, the only question being whether or not it's officially declared.

Travel is becoming increasingly difficult with international borders closed, air services being drastically cut and a requirement for isolation upon arrival. Only reason anyone's going to travel at this point is to get home or to visit someone on their death bed - the idea of recreational or business travel is now completely dead internationally and even domestically is increasingly being shunned.

Workers are increasingly being sent home if not essential to be physically present.

Goods available to purchase are becoming more limited and for most people so is money to purchase anything with. The opening hours of stores are also in some cases reducing.

Most forms of paid entertainment outside the home are now cancelled and it seems virtually certain that what's left will also soon be cancelled. Many unpaid activities are also cancelled.

So it's somewhat of a technicality as to being locked down since the effect is substantially the same regardless. Apart from walking the streets or buying essentials, there's increasingly nothing for anyone to do outside their home anyway.
 
For those wanting to understand how any lock down would work, this one that's actually being done in the US is perhaps a reasonable guide given it's a developed Western country and so on:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ace-california-coronavirus-bay-area-explained

Residents “may leave to provide or receive certain essential services or engage in certain essential activities and work for essential business or government services”.
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The order also allows for outdoor exercise, “provided that the individuals comply with social distancing requirements”.
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So basically if you work in something deemed essential then you can go to work. You can go to shops to buy essential items and you can go for a walk. That's about it.

This is turning into a nightmare really........
 

It will be a nightmare for a while, but hopefully people will realise how dependent we are on other countries for some supplies like masks , gown, gloves and food. Noticed how much of our food is imported from either China or NZ via China , and how many of our food businesses are foreign owned ?

Maybe someone in power will give a thought to these things and do something about it.
 
I just flew back from Port Hedland and no doubt soon we will find out how essential we are.
Remote mines without a town are 100% fifo with large camps with smorgasbord crib lunches
Good luck with it no going through there at a fast rate
The camp I just left blokes are whining about washing their hands before entering the mess
Serious bogan country
Yes I fit in
 
moXJO said:
A lot of chatter that we may be going into lockdown soon.
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First the national closures, then the state boundaries? as this is where enforceability is in hands of Police. Will there be a use for the army? Maybe in logistics and supplies.
Many businesses in the service field have been back-testing systems involving working from home.Many ASX listed entities have made announcements about this. Large organisations that have robust IT can achieve remote operations success (though I do ascribe efficiencies to "water cooler" informality). The announcement from SuperLoop SLC yesterday is enlightening, both how they did it but also for gearing up for anticipated demand of their services.

Canada has stopped childcare, except for health worker and essential services personnel.
Europe is shutting down, just talking to a Czech tradie - he says we are weeks behind what's happening there.
 
Schools apparently are deciding for next week. It's the school holidays in 2 weeks or something I thought. And that seems like a better time to lock down. We have to make it to there without the infection rate going up to much.
 
Woolworths you suck. My son was in there this morning and said shelves were empty. However the local Italian supermarket is constantly stocked. Meat/chicken, fruit and veg, pasta, flour the lot, all day. They have thousands of people pumping through and they keep it fully stocked.

Empty shelves make people panic more. So get your sht together woolies and Coles. This whole thing started with toilet paper. If you can't do the basics something is seriously wrong. I'm starting to wonder if they are doing it on purpose to keep stock turning.

They have had weeks to sort the logistics out by now. I'm seeing others doing it better.
 
Tosser Trump doesn't give much confidence with his daily childish rambles about how China is to blame. Threats against China if they do not supplying medicals. Generally being ungrateful duplicitous fools while depending on Chinese help.

I cant remember USA helping when the virus was mainly in Wuhan. Can you guys?

I also remember people here gloating and laughing at China and proudly announcing how they didn't deserve any help. How are we all feeling now?

The US far right regime under Trump - truly a threat to world peace and an embarrassment to human species for what I assume all of history at this point.
 
The Prime Minister said "we will have to take these measures for at least 6 months, but it might be less" .
 
macca said:
Drat...................but I really do think that a bit of positive news from those who have recovered will settle the hysteria down a lot.

Maybe some enterprising journo could interview a few and cream the ratings
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Not quite the same thing but The Guardian has created a section called The Good Place on its website.
Curates what people can do at home under isolation to make it work better. Practical tips. Constructive news.

There is no doubt we will become a far more online community in the next few months. Trick will be to keep it positive and constructive vs nasty vacuous BS.

PS Did you know that Fox News has done a 180 and declared COVID 19 is a menace and people have to take isolation and social distancing dead seriously.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/series/the-good-place


We have a responsibility': Fox News declares coronavirus a crisis in abrupt U-turn
Hosts encourage viewers to practice social distancing after weeks of downplaying the pandemic as an attack on the president
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/17/fox-news-coronavirus-outbreak-trump
 
SirRumpole said:
The Prime Minister said "we will have to take these measures for at least 6 months, but it might be less" .
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I suppose no one knows how long it will take for the virus to either infect everyone, or infect enough to cause herd immunisation, 6 months seems like a reasonable time to have a definitive answer.
One would think the Prime Minister, is working on information given to him by medical specialists, his expertise in this subject might not be needed as much as it was in bushfire fighting.
At least the P.M isn't being called racist, for quarantining people anymore, as he was when sending the first group to Christmas Island. Ah the media, what a wonderfull organisation.
First they jump onboard that it is an over reaction, then they say we aren't locking down soon enough, so many experts are wasted working in the media.
What a waste of time and money, having a chief medical officer running the show, we could save a fortune by letting the media run it.
 
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