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Its a shame you cannot include union conflict in your list, 1st they came for the unionist...
Like BLM, Extinction Rebellion, and a host of others?
Some animals more equal than others?
There were some union members at the nsw rally. The media decided to target it all as anti-vax. Truth is there were a lot of workers and business owners going to the wall that attended.Its a shame you cannot include union conflict in your list, 1st they came for the unionist...
You can still catch it and spread it. Similar to how Israel got another wave among its vaccinated 60 yo. Everyone thought they were immune and took risks.Options on how to come out of COVID as we attempt to mass vaccinate
Australia needs a Covid plan B that gives more freedom to the vaccinated | Liz Hicks and Greg Dore
Privileges for the double-jabbed could include home quarantine, vaccination passports and exemption from state border closureswww.theguardian.com
True, but at a small fraction of the rate of those not vaccinated:You can still catch it and spread it.
Except that it is a complete misunderstanding of data, as it reflects the statistical inevitability of breakthrough infections when most of the population is vaccinated:Similar to how Israel got another wave among its vaccinated 60 yo. Everyone thought they were immune and took risks.
I think they used basic maths.I like how "Germany" came up with this idea. Jeez I wonder how the Germans came up with that...
There were some union members at the nsw rally. The media decided to target it all as anti-vax. Truth is there were a lot of workers and business owners going to the wall that attended.
More on Israel later. But over a certain age vaccinated had caught it more than unvaccinated. They are getting a third shot of vax as we speak due to efficiency dropping.True, but at a small fraction of the rate of those not vaccinated:
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Except that it is a complete misunderstanding of data, as it reflects the statistical inevitability of breakthrough infections when most of the population is vaccinated:
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Looks more like a ripple than a wave for the older aged.
I think they used basic maths.
The concept of vaccine passports/privileges has widespread appeal.
More on Israel later. But over a certain age vaccinated had caught it more than unvaccinated. They are getting a third shot of vax as we speak due to efficiency dropping.
It's the risks associated with "superman" syndrome that has me worried in Australia. I mean we don't really give a fck now except for a hard core group of bootlegging authoritarians in the making.
Also anyone that was vaccinated earlier not having the protection they once had.
Right now not everyone can get the vaccine so you are just as likely to cause greater unrest.
There is already a growing divide in the community. Putting people even more offside will justify their struggle against government.
Denial of anyone's rights in such a fashion seems fascist. Considering the majority of the population just get the sniffles, it seems to be overreach.
Are we really considering putting a yellow star on those not wanting to get vaxxed?
I get it "big stick" persuasion. Government would be loving it until the crowd turns. Scomo wouldn't be able to implement it imo. The left hate him, but love the idea of the elitist tag a vax passport would bring, but hate scomo....
No doubt for overseas travel it will become a must have. But beyond that and politicians will need 24h security as the NSW mob doesn't need much more to whip it in a frenzy.
Australia location also plays in our favor. How about anyone coming into the country need to be vaccinated. We don't have the shared borders Europe does.
I'm not sure scomo can do math?
Probably the very reason that any draconian stuff is being left to the States, it is a no win for Scomo, as was proven when he suggested younger people should take the AZ the media were all over it.I get it "big stick" persuasion. Government would be loving it until the crowd turns. Scomo wouldn't be able to implement it imo. The left hate him, but love the idea of the elitist tag a vax passport would bring, but hate scomo....
In fact, according to the gospel, if you are vaccinated you won't get as sick, so they will continue to circulate and work. Those who are not vaccinated "should" feel sick and would be more likely to stay at home.
As if on cue:They say Albo is making himself a small target, I think Scomo is trying to follow suit, Scomo is walking a very fine line with the media.
Vaccine hesitancy has started to take the blame, over lack of supply, I think Scomo will miss a bullet on that one.
What has happened now is those who wanted it, got it, those who didn't want it but now are reconsidering, are finding the supply is there.
That translates to voters who wanted it initially got it, those who want it now are getting it, the media are the ones who trumped up the story, I don't think the voters buy it.
Well here we go, just posted on the W.A news:Probably the very reason that any draconian stuff is being left to the States, it is a no win for Scomo, as was proven when he suggested younger people should take the AZ the media were all over it.
Now the States are saying it, the media are supporting it, because the States that are most authoritarian are actually Labor States.
They say Albo is making himself a small target, I think Scomo is trying to follow suit, Scomo is walking a very fine line with the media.
I'd be interested in the infection % out of Israel against some of the newer stuff. I saw an extremely low protection figure but dismissed it at the time as unreliable or skewed.Yes, but according to the gospel you are also substantially less likely to get infected if you are vaccinated. So getting vaccinated is still the best course of action, but they need a cheap easy to use test so that those vaccinated can see if they are one of the few who have got a breakthrough infection.
Also the unvaccinated cannot be relied upon to take the correct action and stay at home as many are in the category that believe there is no virus, or that it is just a flu, or that taking any preventative action is an affront to their liberty.
But there is an even better option, and it's not available!Articles like this in the ABC, should further accelerate the uptake of the vaccine.
The Delta variant is more infectious. Now experts say it has something else that makes it a 'double whammy'
Health experts prepare for a "nightmare scenario" in Australia, with early data from both overseas examples and the NSW outbreak showing the Delta strain is more severe as well as being harder to contain.www.abc.net.au
I wonder if the TGA has approved it yet?But there is an even better option, and it's not available!
We asked about this option over a month ago and were told no, and it's still no today.
It does not make sense!
The vaccines are already approved, so this seems to be an issue for ATAGI.I wonder if the TGA has approved it yet?
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