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It's interesting that 60% of covid hospitalisations of the over 60s in Israel were vaccinated. It did greatly reduce the seriousness of the symptoms with only 1 in ICU. Figures were called into question. But it seems like they are right.
But this is still going to throw a spanner in the works. 90% (over 60s) were vaccinated. So people are still getting sick and transmission hasn't stopped. How is our media and twitter wanks going to cope?
And will this mean lockdowns will stay?
90% of 60yo+ were vaxed and they were 60% of hospitalisation. That was Israel. It's the fact it still presents a problem. I'm not arguing that vaccinations don't do anything. I'm arguing that it still seems to need lockdowns.The vax rates are still no where near 80% to 90% for total population plus higher contagious variants are causing problems yet populations like UK etc are opening, there has been a major difference in numbers between vaccinated and unvaccinated being admitted to hospital.
In the US you have Fox giving the anti vax vibe (Murdoch is vaccinated) its going to be really messy.
90% of 60yo+ were vaxed and they were 60% of hospitalisation. That was Israel. It's the fact it still presents a problem. I'm not arguing that vaccinations don't do anything. I'm arguing that it still seems to need lockdowns.
Well that's just it. Pretty sure a % of younger people were getting it. Either way it doesn't matter. Vaccination reduces serious symptoms for now. And we are at a point where its just easier to vaccinate as a reduction strategy.Lucky this thing doesn't take the kids like most pandemics.
Talk about strengthening your immunity with Vit D, Zinc, Vit C and other products has also been actively censored since Covid
90% of 60yo+ were vaxed and they were 60% of hospitalisation.
Haha, that is what I am talking about. More coulds and mays in that article than I have ever seen in one place before and all connected to ‘possible’ dangers, but a definite recommendation for CDC advice! Spot on propaganda article.No it hasn't.
Do vitamin D, zinc, and other supplements help prevent COVID-19 or hasten healing? - Harvard Health
Certain vitamins and supplements have long been promoted as having benefits for the immune system, which has led some to believe they may have similar effects on COVID-19 — and some do...www.health.harvard.edu
Which seems to be what moXJO is alluding to, with this post.My rough calculation is that an unvaccinated 60yo+ is 6 times more likely to be hospitalised than a vaccinated 60yo+, based on those figures.
Vaccination reduces serious symptoms for now. And we are at a point where its just easier to vaccinate as a reduction strategy.
Talk about strengthening your immunity with Vit D, Zinc, Vit C and other products has also been actively censored since Covid
Haha, that is what I am talking about. More coulds and mays in that article than I have ever seen in one place before and all connected to ‘possible’ dangers, but a definite recommendation for CDC advice! Spot on propaganda article.
And nobody who wants to improve their immunity waits until they have the disease. The article says taking those supplements when someone has the disease was not beneficial - duh. You have to take those kind of things long before to have any affect. It is your immune system that protects you, not the supplements.
Some posts that talked about how the supplements could help were censored and the above two articles are focused on the opinion that supplements will not help.No it hasn't.
Your statement was "Talk about strengthening your immunity with Vit D, Zinc, Vit C and other products has also been actively censored since Covid".
I posted a link in response to that so you now shift your argument.
So here is another for you regarding your false claim.
Here’s what we know about using supplements to fight COVID-19 | Science News
Unless you’re deficient, there’s little evidence yet for taking Vitamin D and other supplements to treat or prevent a coronavirus infection.www.sciencenews.org
Some posts that talked about how the supplements could help were censored and the above two articles are focused on the opinion that supplements will not help.
A short time before China got on top of the outbreak in Wuhan they trucked in 50 tonnes of intravenous Vitamin C. I cannot find the articles now even though the Melbourne Herald Sun published it online.
just found a link http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n13.shtml
It is cheaper than hospitalising patients for many days and here is a link to it saving a swine flu patient in NZ. But that is very different to supplementing to help build your immunity.
I think they worked it out to being careless once they were vaccinated. My main concern is lockdowns will be the go to.Although at first glance that doesn't seem like a good outcome, remember statistically the population size producing the 60% hospitalisations is 9 times the size of that producing the 40% hospitalisations. My rough calculation is that an unvaccinated 60yo+ is 6 times more likely to be hospitalised than a vaccinated 60yo+, based on those figures.
Would be interesting to get the figures on a virgin population..aka Australia.Although at first glance that doesn't seem like a good outcome, remember statistically the population size producing the 60% hospitalisations is 9 times the size of that producing the 40% hospitalisations. My rough calculation is that an unvaccinated 60yo+ is 6 times more likely to be hospitalised than a vaccinated 60yo+, based on those figures.
Yes,still not considering treating......I think they worked it out to being careless once they were vaccinated. My main concern is lockdowns will be the go to.
Am i the only one to be in disbelief about this vaccine avalability?This to me, is what causes people to become cynical IMO.
A union delegate having trouble getting vaccinated, is it because she couldn't get it earlier, or didn't want it earlier.‘We’re getting blamed for everything’: Aged care worker frustrated over vaccine rollout
Aged care worker Suzana says she had to organise her own COVID-19 vaccination and the soonest she could book was late August.www.abc.net.au
It would be nice if the article supplied the information, as to when Suzana first applied for the vaccine.
It is appalling IMO, that the media plays political football with peoples lives, just to get the headline they want, one day it will come down to a decision between the media or democracy IMO.
People will have to decide whether the politicians have the publics best interest at heart, or the media does.
Also I think that day is fast approaching.
Same here, went to my local doctors on Thursday, booked in and jabbed the following Tuesday.Am i the only one to be in disbelief about this vaccine avalability?
Here in the sunshine coast,2 weeks ago was it, i called on monday, got a booking on wednesday and got injected then.no queue whatsover in the local immunisation center.
After that, if people do not want to be injected, i understand it,was already not worthwhile at our age.
i believe this vaccine unavailability rant was/is just another blame Morrison from our woke medias and labour state premiers
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