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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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It sounds as though Victoria are running around in circles a bit, hopefully they can keep the trend going down, but the hold on the situation appears tenuous at best. It must be a worry for Victorians, that this lockdown doesn't work, lets hope it does.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-fix-for-contact-tracers-20200908-p55tnj.html
From the article:
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said the state was too “swamped" by the first wave of the pandemic to consider contact-tracing technology it is now embracing to help contain further outbreaks.
Mr Andrews confirmed reports in The Age that Silicon Valley tech giant Salesforce was providing a new data management system to bring Victoria’s contact-tracing methods into the digital age.
The Premier also confirmed that Victoria rejected an approach by Salesforce early in the pandemic.
“Sometimes, when you are swamped, it is not a great time to move to a new IT platform," Mr Andrews said.
The technology has been used for several months in Western Australia, South Australia and New Zealand and also supports contract tracing in 35 US jurisdictions.
Mr Andrews said Victoria’s entire contact-tracing system, currently being staffed by more than 2600 people, was shifting to the new cloud-based platform.
 
Friend of mine sent me a copy of a daily newsletter from the Washington POST.
Free. Seems useful if one wants to keep up with latest issues/developments.
Clearly has a US focus.

By Angela Fritz
with Avi Selk
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The Post's coronavirus coverage linked in this newsletter is free to access from this email.


The latest
Obesity is turning out to be one of the key indicators that a person will have a particularly bad run-in with covid-19. One study found people with body mass indexes over 30 are at much greater risk for hospitalization, intensive care and death. Another showed that people under age 60 are two to three times more likely to be admitted to the hospital for covid-19 if they are obese. “We almost think this is akin to throwing a match on a tinderbox,” said Sara Tartof, a Kaiser Permanente research scientist. With one of the highest obesity rates in the world, some experts think it has contributed to the stunning coronavirus death rate in the United States.

In an effort to restore faith in the scientific process, chief executives from nine drug companies vowed Tuesday not to seek approval for vaccines before they have proved to be safe and effective. Pharmaceutical companies' promise to adhere to safety would in any other time be unremarkable, but the pledge is coming amid intense pressure from President Trump and the White House to deliver a vaccine before the election.

Trump’s own top vaccine adviser, Operation Warp Speed co-chief Moncef Slaoui, told NPR last week that it's “very unlikely” that a vaccine would be ready before Election Day. And even if it is, the vast majority of Americans wouldn't be able to get it immediately after it's approved. The FDA will most likely want the people who are at the most risk — front-line health workers, those older than 65 and those with underlying medical conditions — to be vaccinated first. After that, it could take another six months for a full approval to distribute the vaccine widely.

In the meantime, we'll have to continue with social distancing, face masks and rigorous cleaning. Robots are being deployed to help with the last one. In one California hospital, two robots disinfect the rooms of all covid-19 patients each day using UV light. It takes them 12 minutes to do a job that a worker would spend 90 on. The pandemic is pushing the U.S. economy toward automation, and posing long-term risks to low-wage workers in the process.
 

Aussies aren't too far behind..https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports-data/behaviours-risk-factors/overweight-obesity/overview

Explains why Asian nations seem to have lower death rates per population.
 
It was published in the very early days by wholistic doctors that there are certain risk factors in the morbidity rates

Obesity, high blood pressure, a bad heart, asthma, Vit D deficiency, lack of regular exercise, diabetes and anyone with a compromised immune system should be super careful.

As usual that was all ignored by the mainstream media
 
cutz said:
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports-data/behaviours-risk-factors/overweight-obesity/overview
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F---k me dead, love the Engwish language.

Who wooda thort!

That being overweight or obese might lead to you being more acceptable to disease! This is a revelation, we need to quickly inform our govnuts of this, seems they missed the brief.

Interesting site with some great facts, wish I could be me hands of some good olde data about deaths in Australia from the virus to do some advanced analysis based on the idea that people who do not care for the bodies my die earlier than expected.

"1 in 3 Australians are obese". Firstly, that is disgraceful or maybe by identifying it we are somehow victimising fat people which is unfair.

Ah not it is not, stop eating so much, exercise and you will not be obese. PC not, but true.

Well if we are going to start restricting my life, how about we start restricting fatty foods, sugar and if you do not do at least 3 hours of exercise a week, you must stay in your home and rot.
 
I think this story highlights a few key points
1) The effect COVID 19 is having on the economy and how people interact
2) The sped with which it can spread.

Thai Rock restaurant was the scene of Sydney's biggest coronavirus cluster — now it's almost out of business

The couple shut their Wetherill Park eatery on July 9 after a staff member tested positive to the virus.
Two months, and 103 cases later, the business is in a deep, deep hole.
A week after reopening, their restaurant is empty.
"We are down 90 per cent of what we were before the closure," Ms Boyd said.
"If we continue like this for another four weeks, we'll be out of business."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09...ster-devastates-thai-rock-restaurant/12644338
 
NSW Thais were angry at the owners of this restaurant. Apparently it wasn't owned by Thais (not sure if its true). They were also insulted because they used Thai as part of the name and felt it reflected badly on them when it wasn't Thais at all.
Thais can get pretty angry.
 
cutz said:
Not sure if the anger is justified,

I was angry when I read about this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09...-compassion-over-terminal-qld-father/12648898
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Thais are pretty patriotic.

I don't know what labors go is, but they are pushing the limits. Palachook already used a fake covid death at the start to justify border closure. Sensibly keeping numbers low is one thing. Jailing your states population is another.

Funny how quickly Labor resorted to locking everyone up. Not exactly a well thought out measure. Thank God bill shorten didn't get in.
 
Its an East Coast thing you guys don't really get on, about boarders and lock downs lets open all the boarders straight after the Federal Government opens the international ones with places with lower Covid rates than Vic and NSW.
 
IFocus said:
Its an East Coast thing you guys don't really get on, about boarders and lock downs lets open all the boarders straight after the Federal Government opens the international ones with places with lower Covid rates than Vic and NSW.
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We in W.A are the black sheep state, we will accept the financial pain of having no Eastern State tourists and dont mind if there are no Eastern State fifo workers, we will suffer in silence and isolation.
 
basilio said:
The news on COVID in Europe and elsewhere is sobering. Countries that thought they had it under control now have rapidly expanding illnesses and deaths.
Makes the Victorian/Australian situation look positively rosy..
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Rapidly expanding deaths?
It's now a Casedemic.
 

Crazy.

Does every pizza joint have to be Italian owned?

Does every kebab shop need Lebanese or M.E. owners?

Does every McDonalds (or American fast food, like hot dogs), need American owners?

Thai Mafia?

I saw a Asian guy cooking German sausages at a Subiaco market years ago...
 
spooly74 said:
Rapidly expanding deaths?
It's now a Casedemic.
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been banging about that for the last couple of months, figures are clear but why would fact matter for our medias, power hungry governments or it seems now a leftist (who would have guessed..) trend.anything can do to remove individual freedom..a bad year flue x4 to 6..that is all what it is..and if anyone qualified start raising his her voice, like the CSL boss on vaccine, this is quickly put off.What would he know hey?
 
Chinese virologist who fled to the US after claiming Beijing covered up Covid-19 vows to publish evidence PROVING the virus is manmade - and claims even non-scientists will be able to verify the data
  • Respected Chinese virologist Dr. Li-Meng Yan claims coronavirus was manmade
  • Appeared on Loose Women today from secret location after fleeing Hong Kong
  • Former researcher at the University of Hong Kong claimed her data was deleted
  • Chinese national health commission have denied claims outbreak started in lab

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...ish-evidence-PROVING-coronavirus-manmade.html


China lied, people died.
 

I have been following this story for months, she has a lot lot lot to loose and not much to gain.

The world leaders, don't want evidence of where it came from, as then they might be forced to act.
 
satanoperca said:
I have been following this story for months, she has a lot lot lot to loose and not much to gain.

The world leaders, don't want evidence of where it came from, as then they might be forced to act.
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She just wants to get permission to stay in the USA and now she can argue she is a dissident.
She was in Hing Kong, an untrusted area, which is now locking everyone up.
 
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