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Coal - where to now?

Hi just soem new addtions to the list

Coal (Thermal & Coking) - CEY, FLX, GCL, MCC, NHC, WHC, AQA, RIV, COK, CZA, PRC, CNA, AVA, NEC, CDS, CES, EQX, EER, RCI, BWN, GNM, ATQ, TCM, FSE, CAG, CWK, REY, LOD, SRL, MLM, WES,

Coal Seam Gas (CTL & UCG) - GLX, BLK, LNC, AOE, SXP, MEE, CXY, PES, ESG, MPO, BUL, QGC, SHG, MEL, ENB, ORG, PGS, MAE, GEL


thx

MS
 
is the coal run over? or just a temporary thing?


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080703.RCOAL03/TPStory/Business
 

Hey I wonder wher ethey got those spot prices from?

If you go to http://www.globalcoal.com its actually gone up a new high of $190+?

NEWC Index
06-Jun-08 158.53
13-Jun-08 160.23
20-Jun-08 162.66
27-Jun-08 172.10
04-Jul-08 194.79




thx

MS
 

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With comments recently in Australia concerning green issues, it should be remembered that UCC coal technology is being funded greatly by coal mining companies.
Australia will increasingly supply UCC coal as Vietnam reduces exports, due to personal needs.
 

Yep btw a few new coal companies BTU & AAL

Coal (Thermal & Coking) Majors - CEY, FLX, GCL, MCC, NHC, WHC, AQA, RIV, COK, CZA, PRC, CNA, AVA, NEC,
Coal (Thermal & Coking) Minors: CDS, CAG, CES, EQX, EER, RCI, BWN, GNM, ATQ, TCM, FSE, CWK, REY, LOD, BTU, AAL, SRL, MLM, WES,

Coal Seam Gas (CTL & UCG) - GLX, BLK, LNC, AOE, SXP, MEE, CXY, PES, ESG, MPO, BUL, QGC, SHG, MEL, ENB, ORG, PGS, MAE, GEL


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MS
 

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Well looks like there's life yet in the Coal sector with BHP announcing a $3.7 Billion Deal



The world's biggest miner BHP Billiton Ltd says it has struck a deal to acquire 100 per cent of the New Saraji project from New Hope Corp Ltd for $2.5 billion cash and $1.2 billion worth of BHP shares in a 50/50 joint venture with Mitsubishi Corp.

"This acquisition is consistent with our strategy to accelerate growth in long life, low cost natural resources with a focus on delivering shareholder value," said BHP Billiton coal president Dave Murray.

New Saraji is an undeveloped metallurgical coal resource located next to the joint venture's Saraji mine near Dysart in Queensland's Bowen Basin.

"New Saraji has extensive high quality metallurgical coal resources," said Mr Murray.

"Subject to the results of further resource exploration and evaluation program to be undertaken by BMA, New Saraji has the potential to be developed into a large scale, high quality metallurgical coal operation."

"New Saraji could also potentially deliver significant synergies due to its proximity to BMA's existing Saraji mine," Mr Murray said.

The acquisition is likely to be scrutinised by regulators and third parties, BHP said.
 
Greetings to all
As a scientist and engineer who has spent 30 years in the coal industry I was impressed by the quality of the data represented. In my view coal has at least another 50 to 80 years of growth and will be limited by the extraction rate and enviromental issues. Coal used in the power industry is converted mainly in what are called supercritical boilers. Over all efficiency of conversion is now over 42%. This is exceptional when compared to other forms of conversion. Even at $300 a ton it sells for $12 per GJ vs over $30 for oil.
It represents a very reliable and consistant base load fuel, and the presence of base load power makes wind turbines possible, the latter supplies spinning reserve and stability to the grid. If this was not the case the frequent stops and starts as well as the high overnight load would make wind turbine grid power impossible.

Coal has recently been demineralised and made into nanopowder so that it an be used directly in gas turbines and diesels. Extending the use will have its technical challenges but it has a high energy density (30 GJ per ton in that form)

I am currently looking at good coal plays I have been impressed by CDS, probably because of the personalities involved. The coal technology employed by ESKOM is very high. SASOL uses the Fischer Tropaz process to produce liguids and this may now be viable. I note that LINC propose to do this with insitu gasification. Your comments would be appreciated.
Cheers Simartech
 
Well, well, well, if it isn't good olde George W Bush to push and congratulate the coal lobby. Looks like its green energy out of the window and bring in lots of US Coal from West Virginia. Best way to keep oil prices down...
http://www.necn.com/category/32/14540
 
Mixed news now on coal prices going forward as the outlook changes. Asian companies are now allowing coal stocks to fall in anticipation of further falls in coal prices.

The number of ships waiting at anchor outside the Newcastle Port dropped to 23 last Friday against 30 a week earlier. Wait is now 11.3 days against 13.15 days.

Last week 25 ships left Newcastle bound for: 17 Japan, 4 Taiwan, 2 Malaysia, 1 South Korea and 1 Turkey.

Thermal coal prices have come down from a peak of about US$194 per tonne to US$160.40 last week. Benchmark thermal price was set at US$125 per tonne from 1st April last. Meanwhile the Aussie has dropped from A$1.04 to A$1.09 against the Greenback.
 
With the cash bid for Lonmin by Xstrata coming after the ASX close.
The price for Lonmin was 50% above the London closing price on Tuesday, and this may play well for coal and other mining stocks at the opening tomorrow.
 
quote from AQA's latest announcement:

The Company’s total attributable JORC compliant Measured, Indicated and Inferred
Resources from its coal projects is 2.6Bt of predominantly hard coking coal (please refer to
Aquila’s previous announcements to the ASX, on 26th March 2008, 9th, 11th June 2008 and 1st
July 2008, for detailed resource statements).



2.6 Billion tonnes of hard coking coal is a huge resource - we are talking hundreds of years of mine life

add on another 1/2 a billion tonnes of iron ore and you have a company that is diverse enough to become a big player

recent share market weakness is just a good excuse to top up
 

I notice AQA has only a 24.5% interest in the Belvedere Coal Project 3.8 billion tonnes, and 50% interest in Eagle Downs, 780mt. These potential mines comprise semi-hard coking coal, PCI coal and some thermal products. These potential mines are of course not developed yet.
The Issaacs Mine looks good and will produce 2.6mtpa of predominantly semi-hard cokig coal. AQA has a 50% interest.
 

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Can anyone advise me on the better coal plays at this point in time?

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Can anyone advise me on the better coal plays at this point in time?

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Hm below is quote from another site




Coal (Thermal & Coking) Majors - CEY, FLX, GCL, MCC, NHC, WHC, AQA, RIV, COK, CZA, PRC, CNA, AVA, NEC, WES
Coal (Thermal & Coking) Minors: CDS, CAG, CES, EQX, EER, RCI, BWN, GNM, ATQ, TCM, FSE, CWK, REY, LOD, BTU, AAL, SRL, MLM, CCD

Coal Seam Gas (CTL & UCG) - GLX, BLK, LNC, AOE, SXP, MEE, CXY, PES, ESG, MPO, BUL, QGC, SHG, MEL, ENB, ORG, PGS, MAE, GEL


Thx

MS
 
Coal miners wait on tenter hooks as Xstrata conclude their October 1st prices for thermal coal, to Japan. They are reported to have given way to pressure on their offer at US$175 per tonne as the Newcastle Port prices drop.

Coal stocks are set to react to the final deal that is thrashed out.
 
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