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have had more good REITs ( including CLW ) than bad ( like APZ and others )REIT's have so far been good to me, as of COB today, CLW is at $4.31 and was below $3.90 a month ago.
Hav ing owned bricks and mortar commercial property myself, these are no brainers.
Just might cut my losses on some tech ETF's and jump boat.
Agree, I'm more comfortable holding REITs instead of bonds myself.currently i use REITs ( most of them ) as bond substitutes ( that is provide relatively stable income )
HOWEVER rising interest rates and a possible tightening of lending , has me watching to leverage percentage of debt held
could either be a massacre , or a windfall for the bold and lucky
i have been CAREFULLY averaging down on a few ( REITs )Agree, I'm more comfortable holding REITs instead of bonds myself.
Rising interest rates are front of mind right now and wondering how much lower will/can REITs get?
but i like to spread the REIT portfolio across several stocks/groups it can get tricky balancing out all that debt and assetsThanks for that divs4ever. I hold also
liferaft??REIT's have so far been good to me, as of COB today, CLW is at $4.31 and was below $3.90 a month ago.
Hav ing owned bricks and mortar commercial property myself, these are no brainers....Just might cut my losses on some tech ETF's and jump boat.
Never owned CLW, it has been attractive but never found it at a good entry point and now it’s too highly leveraged for my liking.liferaft??
08 February 2024
Charter Hall Long WALE REIT faces asset sales
By Glenn Dyer |
In August, Charter Hall Long WALE REIT indicated its intention to sell assets to manage gearing after suffering significant write-downs and asset devaluations, leading to a loss of $189 million for the 2022-23 financial year. The driver behind this loss was a $362.7 million downward revaluation of its $6.8 billion portfolio, including office buildings, warehouses, social infrastructure, agricultural assets, and retail outlets like pubs and petrol stations, revealed during the annual results last August.
During the recent interim results for the 2023-24 financial year, the company reported another loss and emphasized the need for further asset sales, aiming to offload over $500 million worth of commercial property to reduce its debt burden and appease its lenders.
Although the trust has already sold assets worth $145.82 million, there's still nearly $400 million to go to achieve a sustainable level of gearing. Additionally, property write-downs totaling over $306 million, coupled with a $42 million loss on financial derivatives, resulted in a statutory loss of $258.4 million for the 2024 interim earnings period.
Distribution was trimmed to 13 cents a security, reflecting a 7.1% dip in net earnings to just over $93 million. Combined losses for the 18 months to December amounted to $457 million, primarily due to significant write-downs totaling $668 million.
Despite these challenges, the trust maintained its guidance of a 7.1% decrease in earnings and distribution of 26 cents a security for the year ending June. This is a decrease from the distribution and operating earnings of 28 cents a security in 2022-23.
The trust's net tangible assets stood at $5.14 a security at the end of December, down from $5.63 at the end of June, with securities trading around 3% higher at $3.87, representing nearly a 25% discount to the NTA figure.
What LVR do you consider to highly leveraged?Never owned CLW, it has been attractive but never found it at a good entry point and now it’s too highly leveraged for my liking.
sadly a feature of many REITs and that leverage could be problematic laterNever owned CLW, it has been attractive but never found it at a good entry point and now it’s too highly leveraged for my liking.
me ( not @Gretsch ) i baulk at 40% ( except in exceptional circumstances )What LVR do you consider to highly leveraged?
What would you prefer their LVR to be?
Valuations are not to important in the short term, they move around with interest rates, I thing I like love about CLW is the fantastic property portfolio, and the steady rental increases built in to their leases.i hold CLW
am not willing to add more above $3.05 , there are likely more devaluations to come , and contagion from other REITs facing the same challenges
yes , i am mostly about returns on investment ( rather than capital gains ) after all i consider them a bond proxy and a bond if held to full term ( if it gets there ) only returns your investment plus some interest payments on the wayValuations are not to important in the short term, they move around with interest rates, I thing I like love about CLW is the fantastic property portfolio, and the steady rental increases built in to their leases.
All thats happened is interest rates have come up fairly quicking, obviously faster than the rental increases have come in which has caused their dividend to drop from 7 cents to 6.5 cents, and the valuation of the properties to come down reflecting that.
But, if you stand back and look at the big picture, The rental increases will keep coming year after year, (look at the last few pages of their half year report presentation for a break down), but interest rates can't keep rising. So it will all balance out and the income will be great, and the valuations will rise over time with inflation once this temporary re adjustment of interest rates is done.
I hold, and will probably be holding in 20 years time, its a great little income generator in my portfolio.
I like to think of them as a - “Better than Bond Proxy”yes , i am mostly about returns on investment ( rather than capital gains ) after all i consider them a bond proxy and a bond if held to full term ( if it gets there ) only returns your investment plus some interest payments on the way
and if your have floating-rate bonds those payments can be just as lumpy as any REIT
am not so sure i will be around in 20 years , but a fairly regular income source 'for life' looks OK for me
but have shares and other assets as well to help smooth the ride
i agree, I don’t want to be to heavy in office property, it’s good to have some good high quality offices in the portfolio.i have a selection of REITs ( including CLW ) trying to enter at low-tide in various niches
for example i grabbed some MGR in 2011 @ $1.10 and got some capital gains and useful returns
some of the others are less impressive , but that is the property game , who would have guessed office space would be an albatross prior to 2020 ( i was lucky and saw demand for industrial sheds and focused there dodging heavy office exposure )
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