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Symbolism that only reinforces the "back to the dark ages" notion that surrounds the whole issue.

If I wanted to attract attention and raise some awareness of the overall energy issue then I'd go and put up, say, 1 million Christmas lights rather than running around turning off shop signs. Then admit just how trivial that 1 million lights is in terms of energy consumption and how massive the problems we face really are.

1 million incandescent Christmas lights - using about as much power as one of the big six or V8 cars that drove past looking at them, a statistic that's absolutely true but which most would find hard to comprehend. When you realise that a million lights is nothing, you start to grasp just how much energy we use and how big this issue really is.

Yes I'm serious. One million lights. One trivial load. That's the point and the problem.
 
Hindsight, sure I'd buy a hummer. But a car is not an asset that I try make money on. It's an expense. I have 2 cars now both 200+ horsepower. 65+!litres. Gees, oil futures for january were 35$ they will hit $20 soon. So much for oil running out of course it won't stop labor taxing the life out of us. Butbthey will be a one term government I hope.

My offer stands. I'll insure you against rising seas levels, alien invasion and you being stalked and harrassed by supermodels. All guaranteed not to happen by me personly. Backed up with all I have
 
www.thisisreality.org

Have a read! I knew it, I just knew it! "There is no such thing as clean coal"
Proof of their agenda. Co2 is not a problem at all. This was never about any science or charts or modules. It's about turnig our backs on our way of life.

It's about sharing our bath water and drinking our neighbours urine. About living in a communist utopia where the ministry of population control decides who will reproduce and who will have to die.

We need a strong conservative movement in Australia to save of from these people. God help us all.
 

That's a nice Orwellian touch calling themselves Reality. Straight out of 1984.

Oops, spelt a word wrong there. Better fix it, otherwise I will attract the attention a certain self-appointed Big Brother spellchecker and nitpicker. Done.
 
Oh, and on the sea/land ice issue we are still waiting.
So am I.
I asked Wayne if he could tell us the difference, and why it was so important in the context of this thread. Perhaps he needs another year to think about it.... and luckily 2009 is another year.
 
Hindsight, sure I'd buy a hummer. But a car is not an asset that I try make money on. It's an expense. I have 2 cars now both 200+ horsepower. 65+!litres.

slim pickins, And I believe you said back there, global warming is a good thing yes?
... maybe we start with some comics - you might get the picture.

Global warming is a good thing and we should strive toward that end. Within reason

(PS I believe you're tacitly admitting that you'll lose money on the hummers)
 

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slim pickins, And I believe you said back there, global warming is a good thing yes?
... maybe we start with some comics - you might get the picture.

(PS I believe you're tacitly admitting that you'll lose money on the hummers)

'vested interest' These are the people who depend on other people using a lot of fuel if they are to continue to make money.

And provide millions of jobs for people who actually work for a living. Not like theorists who idle away their days collecting cyber garbage and reading comics.
 
And provide millions of jobs for people who actually work for a living. Not like theorists who idle away their days collecting cyber garbage and reading comics.

The technologies for practical alternatives have been developed. Increased development in these directions have been shown (particularly in Denmark) to more that make up for the jobs lost on the fossil fuel side. Add to that the huge subsidies for example in the USA where the real cost of a gallon of fuel at the pump is US$16 a gallon.

Change has always in the past provided new opportunities and expands our overall options in all technologies.

Some above also mentioned bush fires. I understand that the emissions from wood fires is a good co2 used by plants to regenerate. That from oil and coal are toxic. In fact there is some argument that we would be better off warming our homes again with the good old wood fire.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/25/2455015.htm?section=justin
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Quote:
Marshall Is declares emergency over floods
Posted Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:00pm AEDT

A state of emergency has been declared in the Marshall Islands after huge waves forced hundreds of people to flee their homes.

The western Pacific islands have been hit three times in the past fortnight, swamping the capital, Majuro, which is less than one metre above sea level

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So what I'm hearing is that the world should stay just as it is so that The Church of Climatology can justify its existence.

Singapore and the Emirates are reclaiming land. Surely the Marshall Islanders can get off their butts and do as the Dutch did hundreds of years ago with dykes etc. ( no offence meant to anyone).

gg
 
Singapore and the Emirates are reclaiming land. Surely the Marshall Islanders can get off their butts and do as the Dutch did hundreds of years ago with dykes etc. ( no offence meant to anyone).

Make that NOW , for the Dutch, Garpal.
The "weather" men are not on the sunny side of this discussion.
 
http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/news/2008/06/hurricane_modeling?currentPage=all#

 

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marshall island hit by a wave is not the same as rising sea levels. If something gets swallowed up by 1 metre of rising seas, everything on earth must experience the same rise. Such isbthe nature of the ocean.

The last I saw even Venice, less then a metre above the sea is just like is was 400 years ago.

Again does anybody actually believe the oceans have risen even a fractional amount?
 


Remakable! Have never heard such drivel in my life. Unsubsadised Unleaded is $16/barrel in USA! remarkable and false! Downright lie.

Crude is $1.50 per barrel to produce. The january contract was
$35/barrel recently. That's a nice markup that keeps friendly Arabs happy used to be 5 times more just 6 months ago.

One in the USA petrol is about $2.90 or so and that's after a large tax. In fact oil is taxed every step of tv
 
More bloody graphs.

Yes I can see what you mean Garpal. One simple graph shows how the intensity of hurricanes has steadily increased over the past 30 years as the ocean temperatures have increased. All totally predictable by global Warming model which shows increasing sea temperatures resulting in far stronger hurricanes which feed off the warm seas.
 
...........taxed every step of the way. And unleaded is still cheaper the Gatorade, and cheaper then milk.

As for co2 that nature burns being g good for the planet whilst co2 that industry burns being bad for the planet..... Well that is like all of your arguments. Meaningless drivel and cynical Rotten lies. Just like your ideology.
 
apologies bas - (you at least might appreciate this lol)
I forgot to add the link :-

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/hurricanes-and-climate-change.html

 

If you had said that to the Spanish Armada you would have been natchos mate.

gg
 
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