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Symbolism that only reinforces the "back to the dark ages" notion that surrounds the whole issue.Hi all
I stumbled across this story of an energy conservation group in Europe who turn the lights off shopfronts in France to conserve energy. Apparently its not illegal for anyone to turn the exterior lights off, as long as the lights are turned off from the outside!!!
What do you guys think of this? Vigilantes or concerned citizens?
http://knitting.thomaslaupstad.com/video-of-french-activists-turning-off-neon-signs-clan-du-neon/
www.thisisreality.org
Have a read! I knew it, I just knew it! "There is no such thing as clean coal"
Proof of their agenda. Co2 is not a problem at all. This was never about any science or charts or modules. It's about turnig our backs on our way of life.
It's about sharing our bath water and drinking our neighbours urine. About living in a communist utopia where the ministry of population control decides who will reproduce and who will have to die.
We need a strong conservative movement in Australia to save of from these people. God help us all.
So am I.Oh, and on the sea/land ice issue we are still waiting.
Hindsight, sure I'd buy a hummer. But a car is not an asset that I try make money on. It's an expense. I have 2 cars now both 200+ horsepower. 65+!litres.
Global warming is a good thing and we should strive toward that end. Within reason
slim pickins, And I believe you said back there, global warming is a good thing yes?
... maybe we start with some comics - you might get the picture.
(PS I believe you're tacitly admitting that you'll lose money on the hummers)
'vested interest' These are the people who depend on other people using a lot of fuel if they are to continue to make money.
And provide millions of jobs for people who actually work for a living. Not like theorists who idle away their days collecting cyber garbage and reading comics.
.Marshall Is declares emergency over floods
Posted Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:00pm AEDT
A state of emergency has been declared in the Marshall Islands after huge waves forced hundreds of people to flee their homes.
The western Pacific islands have been hit three times in the past fortnight, swamping the capital, Majuro, which is less than one metre above sea level
Singapore and the Emirates are reclaiming land. Surely the Marshall Islanders can get off their butts and do as the Dutch did hundreds of years ago with dykes etc. ( no offence meant to anyone).
Make that NOW , for the Dutch, Garpal.Dutch government warned against rising sea levels
THE HAGUE, Sept 3 (AFP) Sep 03, 2008
Low-lying Netherlands must spend more than 100 billion euros on dike upgrades and coastal expansion to avoid the ravages of rising sea levels due to global warming, experts warned Wednesday.
The country, nearly two-thirds of which lies below sea level, must spend up to 1.5 billion euros (2.1 billion dollars) per year over the next century on additional safety measures, said a report compiled by a government appointed commission.
"The security challenge is urgent: the climate is changing, the sea level rising and river flows increasing while a quarter of dikes and dams do not meet the current safety norms," states the report presented to Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende in The Hague.
It said "an extra amount of between one and 1.5 billion euros per year is needed to 2100." The figure represents about 0.3 percent of national income.
The Delta commission recommended a large-scale upgrade of dikes protecting the country from the North Sea.
And it proposed expanding the North Sea coast by a kilometre by dumping large quantities of sand -- a project for which extra 100 to 300 million euros would be needed.
When Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans in late August 2005 and the levees around the city broke, flooding the city and killing hundreds, Ed Link was as surprised as everyone else.
He shouldn't have been. As one of the nation's foremost hurricane experts, Link, a professor at the University of Maryland, had access to the government's most sophisticated mathematical models for predicting damage from big Gulf Coast storms. But those models weren't accurate because the data they were based on were incomplete, out of date or just plain wrong.
As the floodwaters receded and the Army Corps of Engineers rushed to repair the levees, the government asked Link to lead a team of engineers and scientists from the government and private sector -- 300 in all -- to recode those old models. The goal of the vaguely named Interagency Performance Evaluation Task Force was twofold, Link told Wired.com: first, "to get that knowledge built back into the levee repairs so the same vulnerability wasn't built into the system again. The second was to come up with a 'risk assessment' looking forward."
In other words, to have a much better idea, grounded in solid science, of who might be killed or have their property destroyed in future Gulf Coast hurricanes.
The levees have long since been fixed and upgraded, but the risk assessment -- based on a mind-boggling 2 million equations -- is just now nearing completion. As the math came together beginning in 2007, the task force began publishing color-coded, interactive maps in an effort to show Gulf Coast residents what kind of danger they likely faced from hurricanes. The Google Earth-based maps can be found on the Army Corps website.
The ultimate "risk" map, the culmination of the task force's work representing tens of thousands of square miles from Florida to Texas, is slated for release this week.
Gathering the data for the levee upgrade and the risk maps took three years of back-breaking, mind-numbing effort by hundreds of team members using a surprising mix of high technology, old-fashioned detective work, trick psychology and, when all else failed, intuition. The results have revolutionized authorities' understanding of Gulf Coast hurricanes.
But whether the public will pay heed is another matter.
The technologies for practical alternatives have been developed. Increased development in these directions have been shown (particularly in Denmark) to more that make up for the jobs lost on the fossil fuel side. Add to that the huge subsidies for example in the USA where the real cost of a gallon of fuel at the pump is US$16 a gallon.
Change has always in the past provided new opportunities and expands our overall options in all technologies.
Some above also mentioned bush fires. I understand that the emissions from wood fires is a good co2 used by plants to regenerate. That from oil and coal are toxic. In fact there is some argument that we would be better off warming our homes again with the good old wood fire.
More bloody graphs.
apologies bas - (you at least might appreciate this lol)Yes I can see what you mean Garpal. One simple graph shows how the intensity of hurricanes has steadily increased over the past 30 years as the ocean temperatures have increased. All totally predictable by global Warming model which shows increasing sea temperatures resulting in far stronger hurricanes which feed off the warm seas.
Earth's oceans contain various dynamic circulation patterns that influence the distribution of warm and cold water in upper ocean depths. These patterns, or oscillations, last a period of years or even decades. The most well known is the El Niño Southern Oscillation in the Pacific Ocean. The atmospheric conditions described above (e.g., humidity, low wind shear), along with ocean oscillations, are factors that correlate with more intense storms over the short term. (19)
Over the long term, however, study findings show that global warming is the overarching factor; initial findings suggest that over the period 1970 to 2004 warmer sea surface temperature is the major factor in the increase in category 4 to 5 hurricanes globally.(19, 20) A study examining the causes of above-average temperatures in the North Atlantic ocean in 2005 indicated about 0.3 °C of the increase arose from ocean oscillations, 0.2 °C from normal weather variations, and 0.45 °C from global warming. (21)
Diminished braking mechanism. Tropical cyclones generate strong winds that mix the ocean's surface waters, churning up colder water from below. (5) This colder water typically serves to weaken a storm; however, if deeper waters become too warm, this natural braking mechanism is diminished. Data from Hurricane Katrina indicate that while sea surface temperature was warm enough for maintaining the hurricane along its entire path, the storm significantly intensified when it hit the deep pools of warm water in the Gulf of Mexico. (22)
Protecting Coastal Communities
Given the loss of life and the huge costs of rebuilding after hurricanes, it is essential to do whatever we can to avoid dangerous warming and protect America's coastal communities for ourselves and our children. This will require a combination of aggressive emission reduction efforts, improved building codes, and the restoration of wetlands, dunes, and barrier islands that can serve as a buffer against rising sea levels and hazardous storm surges.
Brenda Ekwurzel (Union of Concerned Scientists) prepared this summary with helpful reviews by Kevin Trenberth (National Center for Atmospheric Research) and Kerry Emanuel (Massachusetts Institute of Technology). ©2006 Union of Concerned Scientists.
Yes I can see what you mean Garpal. One simple graph shows how the intensity of hurricanes has steadily increased over the past 30 years as the ocean temperatures have increased. All totally predictable by global Warming model which shows increasing sea temperatures resulting in far stronger hurricanes which feed off the warm seas.
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