wayneL
VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!
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Tsk Tsk so nasty... and on Christmas morning as well.
The ghost of Christmas past hasn't dropped in has he?
Tsk Tsk so nasty... and on Christmas morning as well.I can see that you have been for some time on this topic.
When you can work out the key difference between the models you personally are familiar with, and climate models, come back for some debate.
By the way, climate models are not "chaotic". They attempt to replicate known outcomes over decades, the results of which vary minutely year on year.
You are very quick to reproduce the straw man argument in your defence.Part B of your argument could, indeed does, completely destroy your argument in Part A.
Whereas, climate models attempt to replicate the known past (real world observations as you call them) and model the key drivers of change based on scientific principles.Clearly you believe you have a grasp of the science; but your statement as quoted clearly shows that you don't, and have difficulty grasping the difference between modeling and real world observation.
It seems all very unfair, we are down to only one member of the church of climetology. The rest must be out whale watching, or tree hugging
Wayne has outlined courses of action we could all follow, an Smurf has added his 2 cents regularly (I think we have a dollar from him already in this thread).Redrob, if you think that CO2 is a problem could you outline a solution?
"poisoned by their petards maybe?" (French for fart is almost identical)Crudely, every fart counts, as Garpal is only too aware.
after considering all the evidence I have concluded that there is no global warming as a result of human activity....
... Global warming is a good thing and we should strive toward that end. Within reason.
Global warming fanatics should put their money where their mouth is and sell all waterfront property to us sceptics. I don't see that happening. In fact those properties just keep appreciating. ...
Coastal development all at sea over climate
Date: September 15, 2008
Publication: The Age (subscribe)
A similar planning dilemma drew national attention last month when the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal banned residential development on low-lying farm land in South Gippsland, citing among its reasons the possibility of flooding from climate change.
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One general insurer has estimated that the value of coastal property in Australia at risk to rising sea levels and erosion is between $50 billion and $150 billion.
In a submission to a Federal Government inquiry, the insurer even suggests an insurance fund into which owners of low-lying land would pay a regular levy for compensation when sea levels cause their land to become permanently unusable.
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The City of Melbourne has passed a motion to consider amending its planning scheme to account for storms and sea level rises due to climate change.
Stormwater from large sections of metropolitan Melbourne is drained into Port Phillip Bay through drainage pipes, many of which will be under water on the basis of some sea level predictions.
GM, Utility Companies Team up to Improve Electric Vehicle Infrastructure
Shane McGlaun (Blog) - July 23, 2008 11:05 AM
The Wall Street Journal reports that Congress is considering legislation that would set a price on carbon-dioxide emissions and that utility companies that prove their electricity is helping to replace gasoline could get special consideration.
A new report published by Lloyd's and Risk Management Solutions warns that without adaptation, insurance losses from coastal flooding for high-risk properties could double by 2030.
Lloyd's chief executive Richard Ward says: "With over half the world's population expected to live within 100 kilometres of the coastline in 25 years' time, it is imperative that we address this risk now by starting to adapt.
"The world cannot insure its way out of climate change, but the insurance industry can play a key role in the fight against it by encouraging adaptation.
"If this doesn't happen, insurance will become more expensive and less available."
It seems all very unfair, we are down to only one member of the church of climetology. The rest must be out whale watching, or tree hugging.
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You are right...only one man standing, the dependable Red Rob.
However, I don't think he is as really committed to the cause as his fellow disciples. It is just that he is quarrelsome by nature and loves an argument.
Sir,Snake
I can see you are trying hard to keep up.
Here's a crash course on the "science":
http://www.awi.de/fileadmin/user_up...al_carbon_cycle/pk_cc_02_ghgforce_handout.pdf
Slim and Calliope you spoke too soon.
The elves have returned from helping Santa.
Slim and Calliope you spoke too soon.
The elves have returned from helping Santa.
More youtubes, graphs, pictures of earth and other demonic arts with which to torture us.
gg
strange that gg
Ever since you bet me that McCain would beat Obama, I've been referring to you as Santa Claus
btw, the closest thing to a bookie in this case would be the likes of the big insurance companies yes?
actually I was given 3 days purgatory for daring to suggest that Calliope didn't know how to spell BoultWelcome back from the North Pole mate.
hey slim,yes GG, we got another one, and he's a live one too.
actually I was given 3 days purgatory for daring to suggest that Calliope didn't know how to spell Boult
mind you he doesn't have the integrity to admit it
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