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If you had followed some of the issues raised you wouldn't need to ask.So where is all this warmening ??????????????????????
Utterly wrong: Most people through the ages believed the earth was domed until some clever folk (mathmeticians and astronomers) a few thousand years ago worked out it was round.
I suspect you have confused a flat earth with an earth that was the centre of the universe. Copernicus championed the heliocentric theory and appears to have been encouraged by the Church to progress his work at the time.
If you had followed some of the issues raised you wouldn't need to ask.
Best you keep enjoying the weather and bathe yourself in a sea of ignorance.
The IPCC published their first major report on "mitigation" in 1995, and followed it up again in 2001 and 2007.These scientists will either start working hard on mitigation, or be shown up as hypocrites.
???I will mate , I will,
Unlike all those poor bastards tortured over 2000 years for not quite believing in the correct dogma.
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The IPCC published their first major report on "mitigation" in 1995, and followed it up again in 2001 and 2007.
Is it your practice to shoot first and ask questions later?
HAha, only because you don't like my opinion.I was thinking you came a close 2nd.: :
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Are you meaning the Inquisitions that took place less than a thousand years ago?
It's interesting isn't it. It is hard to appreciate just how selective you have to be to dismiss the evidence for climate change. You have to climb over a mountain of evidence to pick up a crumb: a crumb which then disintegrates in your palm. You must ignore an entire field of science, the statements of the world’s most important scientific institutions, and thousands of papers published in the foremost scientific journals. And if you are someone like Christopher Monckton you have to do it all while calling yourself a scientist.
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Global Warming and Peak Oil - The right solutions, right now
I have this awful feeling that they revolve around taxes and encroaching totalitarianism... politics and control, rather than real solutions... and not a bloody word on the other real and more imminent environmental problems we face, some of which are mentioned on this thread (bees, north pacific rubbish tip etc).
I have this awful feeling that they revolve around taxes and encroaching totalitarianism... politics and control, rather than real solutions...
My fear also. The recently announced 5% - 15% scheme, which includes massive compensation for polluters give further weight to this.My thoughts exactly Wayne. Call me a skeptic, conspiracy theorist etc, but i believe it is just a way for gov's to take more freedoms away from the common people.
It was 'terror' for a while, that allowed phone taps, privacy invasions, unlimited holding periods etc, and now CC is the next thing to reduce the freedoms of the mass, stupiefied sheeple public out there.
My fear also. The recently announced 5% - 15% scheme, which includes massive compensation for polluters give further weight to this.
And, when talking about government control, let's not forget the soon to be instituted internet blocking. Once this is in place, and the government is refusing to say what sites will be blocked, the population will have no knowledge of what is further being removed from our access as time goes on.
Perhaps even this discussion will in future only carry the remarks of the believers, whilst the comments of the sceptics will simply disappear.
How very convenient it would all be.
Maybe it didn't all happen in 1984 as Orwell proposed, but it might just have been his timing that was out.
Perhaps even this discussion will in future only carry the remarks of the believers, whilst the comments of the sceptics will simply disappear.
How very convenient it would all be.
Maybe it didn't all happen in 1984 as Orwell proposed, but it might just have been his timing that was out.
julia,
as someone stated earlier, their true agenda is something similar to the communists. To control money, power, resources and thoughts. The net result will be an impoveished population an impoversihed country lack of freedom but their total control.
Why would a group do such a thing? Well there is no logic to their actions. It's like asking why did the world have to live in fear of communism for 70 years. Why did the reds bankrupt their countries take away freedoms and try to impose their will on us? Hard to say. Maybe they didn't like proof that there were better systems of government.
Similarly, greens claim their will must be imposed on the world cause thevplanet is in danger. In danger from modernity, wealth, freedom and rising living standards. Don't forget their claim that the world is overpopulated. That's the really scarry bit.
My parents lived in a commnist country. And I've heard all the stories of the creeping terror, government mandating that noone will have a fridge larger than 1 cubic metre, Noone except government officials will have a car larger then a certain number of horsepower. Noone to have a water heater over 50 liters in size.
It's eerely similar to the current green proposals of forcing us drive lawnmowers to work and wanting us to share bathater.
Oh no, the dams are empty in Sydney because we have an extra million people and haven't built a dam for 35 years. Oh no, it's the fault of global warming!
julia,
as someone stated earlier, their true agenda is something similar to the communists. To control money, power, resources and thoughts. The net result will be an impoveished population an impoversihed country lack of freedom but their total control.
Why would a group do such a thing? Well there is no logic to their actions. It's like asking why did the world have to live in fear of communism for 70 years. Why did the reds bankrupt their countries take away freedoms and try to impose their will on us? Hard to say. Maybe they didn't like proof that there were better systems of government.
Similarly, greens claim their will must be imposed on the world cause thevplanet is in danger. In danger from modernity, wealth, freedom and rising living standards. Don't forget their claim that the world is overpopulated. That's the really scarry bit.
My parents lived in a commnist country. And I've heard all the stories of the creeping terror, government mandating that noone will have a fridge larger than 1 cubic metre, Noone except government officials will have a car larger then a certain number of horsepower. Noone to have a water heater over 50 liters in size.
It's eerely similar to the current green proposals of forcing us drive lawnmowers to work and wanting us to share bathater.
Oh no, the dams are empty in Sydney because we have an extra million people and haven't built a dam for 35 years. Oh no, it's the fault of global warming!
Snake
No. It's a formula that expresses relationships and their effects in a perfect theoretical framework.
There is more than one greenhouse gas so in the real world each would need to be accounted for.
Then we have the astonishing duplicity of government. Here in the UK there are plans for an additional runway at Heathrow to handle more air traffic, an additional lane on the M25 London Orbital Motorway, government bailouts for LandRover/Jaguar (maker of co2 belching behemoths according to greenies).
Meanwhile, public transport is uneconomic; if you are transporting more than yourself, it is cheaper to use your car.
They talk the talk, but they are not serious. This presents a prima faecia case for an ulterior agenda as you've outlined. Perhaps it is something as benign as energy security and self sufficiency, but I suspect more sinister motives, along with you.
A point of clarification here.My own ideology is actually somewhat toward that of the environmentalists but...
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