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With regard to the Rudd governments 5% reduction. It is a sick joke. If we are going to have any chance of stopping runaway global warming the overall amount of greenhouse reduction needs to be much more much quicker.
If anyone is interested in poking a stick at the Rudd government consider supporting Get Ups Boxing day Climate Change ad.
so chops ,So this Garnaut guy has proven himself to be environmentally incompetent and one of the most environmentally destructive people on the planet.
As a self confessed greenie, how the **** can the minions following him around in here do so with such mindless regard to his own environmental destruction which is far far worse than any climate change bollocks...
Garnaut's assessment of climate plan 'offensive'
Posted 4 hours 14 minutes ago
Updated 2 hours 20 minutes ago
Unions have described economist Professor Ross Garnaut's criticisms of the Federal Government's carbon policy as "offensive".
Professor Garnaut says the Rudd Government is aiming too low in its unconditional target of a 5 per cent emissions cut by 2020, and the policy announced this week will put the economy at risk.
The Government's chief climate change adviser has also criticised the $3.9 billion worth of compensation for electricity generators outlined in the plan.
Professor Garnaut says the funding lacks a public policy purpose and the cost is likely to blow out and create a "large risk to public finances".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/20/2451809.htm
Govt's emissions reduction target not high enough: Garnaut
Posted Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:19am
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/20/2451899.htm
The Federal Opposition says criticism of the Government's climate policy by Professor Ross Garnaut shows that Kevin Rudd has significantly watered down his original aims.
Ok Tedi’s new mine owners accused of environmental damage
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 19/12/2008
Reporter: Steve Marshall
Thirteen years on from the revelation of shocking environmental destruction by the Ok Tedi mine in Papua New Guinea, the new owners and management of the same mine are being accused of environmental mistakes.
Transcript
HEATHER EWART, PRESENTER: Thirteen years ago, ABC cameras captured the shocking environmental destruction created by the Ok Tedi mine in Papua New Guinea. Those pictures showed tons of mud and mine waste polluting the river and the land around it.
Ok Tedi's former owner BHP agreed to pay more than $100 million in compensation to landowners before giving its majority share to a company called PNG Sustainable.
The role of the company is to invest in future projects on behalf of Papua New Guineans.
It has some high-powered people on its board, including the Australian Government's chief advisor on climate change, Professor Ross Garnaut.
ahh - god Ok Tedi was a disgrace wasn't it?No, I have a serious problem with this. In fact, in my eyes, it is a monumental problem I have with it:
ahh - god Ok Tedi was a disgrace wasn't it?
Spent a bit of time in PNG - walked Kokoda in the 60s etc. Been to some of the islands
http://www.miningwatch.ca/index.php?/Cyanide/WB_Ok_Tedi_report
So what has the revered Professor Garnaut done to earn this criticism?So this Garnaut guy has proven himself to be environmentally incompetent and one of the most environmentally destructive people on the planet.
As a self confessed greenie, how the **** can the minions following him around in here do so with such mindless regard to his own environmental destruction which is far far worse than any climate change bollocks...
So what has the revered Professor Garnaut done to earn this criticism?
All I've heard from him was today when he castigated Rudd & Co for being too timid.
This whole thing is getting to the point where it's so farcical it's funny.
So are you saying Garnaut is on the Ok Tedi board?See above Julia.
This is all old news, next you'll be talking about the vikings wiping out the monasteries in Scotland and Ireland.
Lets talk about weather.
Its a typical late December day here in Townsville.
Whats it like in the warmening areas.
gg
So what has the revered Professor Garnaut done to earn this criticism?
All I've heard from him was today when he castigated Rudd & Co for being too timid.
This whole thing is getting to the point where it's so farcical it's funny.
So are you saying Garnaut is on the Ok Tedi board?
If so, how very funny indeed.
Dr Garnaut, who recently visited Port Moresby for climate change talks, reluctantly spoke to the ABC about the issue.
But as the chairman of PNG Sustainable and a board member of Ok Tedi, is it OK to let that amount of waste to go down the river?
ROSS GARNAUT, CHAIRMAN, PNG SUSTAINABLE: You would not believe the amount of effort that's gone into carefully managing that including the investment of $400 million in a project to remove the toxic sulphur from the project, including the commissioning of first one dredge, then a second dredge to remove material from the river. It's the most thorough and careful management of the environment that's ever been undertaken by a mining company. Thanks very much.
STEVE MARSHALL: But a management decision has let a huge amount of waste go down the river, Doctor.
ROSS GARNAUT: I do, I do, I do have to get back to climate change. That's what I'm here for today. There's are lot of people waiting for me at another place. So, very nice to see you, Steven. Goodbye.
PETER FACKLER: To remove the dredge out of the river system is totally against their operating conditions.
STEVE MARSHALL: Until two months ago, Peter Fackler was an Ok Tedi supervisor at the Bige dredging site. He was alarmed at the decision to remove the dredge.
PETER FACKLER: So that means that there's been a slug of around 20 million cubic metres that's working its way down the Ok Tedi River as we speak.
STEVE MARSHALL: Twenty million cubic metres of mining waste, enough to fill the Melbourne cricket ground 12 times over. Ok Tedi's website claims the company removes 15 million cubic metres of waste from the river each year, but this internal email reveals that the dredge removed just three million cubic metres of waste over an 18-month period.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2008/s2451559.htm
It is a joke,
Its belief and politics.
Lets get on with life.
I am sorry I ever started this thread.
The dice have been case for the environment.
You've got it in one Green.
It is the dice.
Read the Diceman.
A great book.
All this kerfuffle is like the Y2000 bug.
Pure conjecture, graphs and opinions by scientists.
Show me one instance where a scientist predicted an event 50 years forward, and was correct.
gg
Show me one instance where a scientist predicted an event 50 years forward, and was correct.
gg
I am sorry I ever started this thread.
It seems to be a flytrap for the extremes of environmentalism and godbothering.
gg
Don't be sorry. You're on a winner. The smug, arrogant climate change zealots have been hoist with their own petard and are now is disarray.
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