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Re: LEI - Leighton Holdings

At what point does it become feasible to buy this share It finished at a 1 year low today
 
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This was a laugh.


https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5942&p=631978&highlight=lei#post631978
 
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I am afraid you are looking like a perfect contrarian indicator...

We've all done it at some point in your trading/investing life.


I don't think so, looking back I did the right thing in selling it.
 
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I don't think so, looking back I did the right thing in selling it.

Yes definitely a good sell. Saved yourself 20% even with the rises in the last 2 days.

I thought at the time all the bad news were out but how wrong was I.
 
Re: LEI - Leighton Holdings

Great, labor's desal plant is going to be producing water by july!!
We could be back in flood by then!
We all pay more for water because of it.:fish:
 
Re: LEI - Leighton Holdings

I bought this as a recovery stock at $17.50. It is continuing the recovering, up 10% today.

Cheers
Country Lad

PS As I post this, looks like another 2% in the match-out.
 
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LEI lost the Chair and 2 independent directors as they are not happy with the Spanish owner.

Stock down 10%.

I am guessing some righteous fund manager thinks that the Board should be independent so decided to vote with their feet... but what's the actual fundamental implications of such an event?

Apart from a bit of fun boardroom drama, it doesn't sound that meaningful when it comes down to earnings and revenue etc? Are they worried that a Spanish rule would be inferior?

A good pairs candidate to hold for a Monday bounce I think....
 
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BLD
 
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My post was dated back in March?! That trade worked out quite nicely.

Having said that... I did put a LEI/LLC trade on yesterday but spat it back out first thing this morning for a loss. Citi downgraded LEI to a sell and I didn't want to be there for the fun. On hindsight I should have just reversed...

Back in Feb 2012 when it announced that there are potential breaches of ethical codes etc, the share price fell sharply and remained weak for another week or so. It may be similar this time around. However, LEI has run up pretty hard (on the back of a so-so result) so imo much of the fall is really just retracing some of the previous up move.

Fundamentally nothing terribly new or bad happened. Afterall it was just a newspaper story which the police is already investigating. It's not like they will lose their wheat export monopoly like AWB. They may lose a few government contracts overseas, and there's some words about how it will impact further their cash collection in the Middle East. So on these grounds the 12% fall seems like an over-reaction. But valuation wise it isn't a no-brainer bargain or anything like that either.
 
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The fines at the top of the range (an unlikely outcome, IMO) would be $1.89billion

http://www.dfat.gov.au/issues/measures-against-corruption.html
 
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The fines at the top of the range (an unlikely outcome, IMO) would be $1.89billion


http://www.dfat.gov.au/issues/measures-against-corruption.html

what hypocrisy! what double standard!
Companies that improve Australia's foreign trade balance get penalised and their officers crucified, yet the same politicians that have legislated from a position on a moral high ground absolve themselves and their ilk when they rort the system, then come up with all kinds of lame excuses.
"Networking" at a wedding.
"Study crime fighting" on an Overseas family holiday.
etc...
 
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The fines at the top of the range (an unlikely outcome, IMO) would be $1.89billion
http://www.dfat.gov.au/issues/measures-against-corruption.html

I guess it depends on the definition of "company concerned".

If they take 10% of turnover of LEI holdings that'd be a massive fine. If they take 10% of turnover of the subsidiary the broke the law - probably a lot less.

Either way, the investigation is not completed yet anyway.
 
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If the board of LEI knew of the corruption then you can guess who they'll be going for. I'm not sure if a foreign domiciled subsidiary can be fined by an Australian authority. Either way I'm sure they'll negotiate it.

Early days, but there is a trend emerging here with Australian companies paying bribes. If the RBA is doing it then who knows who else is!

If these allegations are true, then look out below...


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/buil...tion-claims-20131002-2ut2e.html#ixzz2giY0qmRN

I do think this is bigger than just losing a few government contracts.
 
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Early days, but there is a trend emerging here with Australian companies paying bribes. If the RBA is doing it then who knows who else is!

Lol. What is RBA's annual turnover?

If these allegations are true, then look out below...

I do think this is bigger than just losing a few government contracts.

Well judging by the lack of bounce in LEI's share price today it does seem that market is looking at it more seriously than I am.

I think LEI must have the ASX large cap record of dropping 10%+ bombshells in the last few years.
 
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The fines at the top of the range (an unlikely outcome, IMO) would be $1.89billion


http://www.dfat.gov.au/issues/measures-against-corruption.html

The problem I have with the fines against the company is that the shareholders, who had nothing to do with the illegal activities, are the one who suffer. It should be more so the people who carried out or condoned the activities who should carry the burden in huge fines or jail terms. Not quite "off with their heads!!, but nearly.

This would be the best incentive for directors and senior people in all companies to ensure that their risk management and corporate governance was as good as it can be.

Cheers
Country Lad
 
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