greggles
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They are all Blips in the long run, its not going to change anything, except the nervous nellies will sell out to those will more long term views and the patient folk will get richerThe fallout from the oversupply/overpriced realestate sector is going to have some repercussions.
It makes previous slow downs look like mere blips, and shows no sign of stabilising.
Will have repercussions everywhere, particularly in Australia.
How long before
(a), the CCP steps in to do something.
(b) , the price of iron Ore, Coal etc that we export to China starts to fall.
Mick
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Once the world's largest property company by capitalisation.It took two and a half years but Evergrande Group has finally been ordered into liquidation by a Hong Kong court after the company was unable to reach a restructuring deal with creditors.
With US$325 billion in liabilities, this corporate collapse is going to have a huge impact, and other companies could well be following Evergrande into liquidation.
Evergrande: Crisis-hit Chinese property giant ordered to liquidate
The Hong Kong order may matter little in the mainland, where most of the property giant's assets are held.www.bbc.com
They must have picked up exports to India at a phenomenal rate to beat the exports going to countries other than India since this data was published in 2020.@mullokintyre
For example Green energy projects are pretty big consumers of steel, also China exports a lot of steel to India and they picking up construction at a rapid rate.
Yeah, exports to India are growing at a huge rate, but I didn’t say India is their largest market, what I meant was that if China‘s construction slows down, some of that will be offset by growth of exports to India as they are growing and also growth in other areas in china like energy infrastructure, not to mention exports in general are growing to other markets.They must have picked up exports to India at a phenomenal rate to beat the exports going to countries other than India since this data was published in 2020.
Mick
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Time will tell if and when the list of creditors pops up.I'm wondering which financial institutions are exposed to Evergrande. Surely there is a risk to bank stability in this situation ?
Time will tell if and when the list of creditors pops up.Of course the banks will always have first cut of the cake
The BCC ...Bank of Central Committee, (or CCB). ..Only player that mattersI suggest that the CCP (aka, the filth) won't let the liquidator get at assets in China and that's most of them.
So, can foreigners buy property in China?
The answer is yes, foreigners are allowed to purchase property in China! The essential requirement is that you have studied or worked in China for at least one year on a residence permit. Foreigners are allowed to only own one residential property for dwelling purposes. You may not rent out the property or act as a landlord. Requirements and restrictions may differ in different provinces and cities. For example, Shanghai requires that non-Shanghai hukou families, including foreigners, have to provide proof of income tax or social insuranceto the local government.
So i wonder what will happen when we get to the late 2050's and some of the earliest leases start to run out.All land in China is owned by the Chinese government, who then lease it out for 70 years at a time. When you buy a home a China, you are only buying the property and not the land the property is built on, meaning if the government decides that they need the land your property is on for any reason, they may evict you. Although this may sound a little severe, it is actually not a big problem. These regulations were first amended in 1988, making the earliest expiration date of leased land somewhere in the late 2050s, which is still a long time away. If it does happen that the government evicts you, you will be compensated.
and keep the lid on social discord.China slashes mortgage reference rates to revive property market
... Obviously China is desperate to reinflate that Real Estate Bubble.
and 12 months later ....It took two and a half years but Evergrande Group has finally been ordered into liquidation by a Hong Kong court after the company was unable to reach a restructuring deal with creditors.
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