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China on our doorstep



A neutral world would be nice like something you would hear about at the Nimbin Mardi Grass days in the 90's.
 
The last Taiwan Strait crisis in 1996 (Clinton):

Following Beijing’s launching of missiles across the strait that year, Washington sent a battle fleet, including two aircraft carriers, to the area. US Defence Secretary William Perry declared that
“Beijing should know, and this US fleet will remind them, that while they are a great military power, the strongest, the premier military power in the Western Pacific is the United States”.
 
Back then the USA was like that one kid on the under 14’s footy team that had hit puberty and was stronger than everyone else so he could afford to be a bit of a bully.

Now though he is on the under 17’s team, and just realised that kid he used to push around last season has hit puberty and the gym, and maybe acting like a bully might get him a blood nose.
 
On the same theme:

China's military modernisation in recent decades mean some security analysts say it would be unthinkable for U.S. aircraft carriers to challenge Chinese forces in the seas around Taiwan in the way they did a quarter of a century ago.

Back then, one carrier sailed through the Taiwan Strait as another manouvered close by to end days of Chinese missile launches and military drills as Beijing protested Taiwan's first direct presidential election.

More than half of the U.S. Navy's 111 currently deployed battle force ships are now within the Japanese-based Seventh Fleet's sphere of responsibility that straddles the western Pacific and Indian oceans, according to the tracking by the independent U.S. Naval Institute.

Deploying ships en masse to the Chinese coast is another matter, given China's inventory of advanced cruise and ballistic missiles and its expansive surface fleet, regional security analysts say.

Four powerful vessels - the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan, the amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli and the guided missile cruiser USS Antietam are east of Taiwan, Reuters has confirmed. Another assault ship - which also carries F-35 strike fighter aircraft - is at port nearby in Japan.
Some security analysts say it was highly likely U.S. attack submarines were also close to such a formation.

The passage of the Reagan strike group was particularly closely watched by regional security analysts in the days before Pelosi's mission.
The Reagan later headed through the tight sealanes of the Philippines' archipelago before reaching waters west of Taiwan, according to an official U.S. naval Facebook page.

Singapore-based security scholar Collin Koh said the passage through the Philippines' San Bernadino strait by an aircraft carrier was unusual, instead of sailing north between the Philippines and south China coast.

"I think it shows some carefully calibrated deployments, designed to not unnecessarily provoke China even while ensuring they're moving to where they need to be."
 
Has anyone figured out what Pelosi was there for and what she achieved. Did she visit any chip manufacturers to get some inside info??

Has anyone seen the transcript of Biden's phone call with Xi??

The media used to lobe publishing presidential transcripts with foreign leaders...what's changed?
 

I have a theory, but My views are not going to change anything.

 
I'm not sure if I've heard right but I read on the grape vine, watching ABC this morning, that Taiwan has now started it's own military exercises as a show of force, I guess. Good luck Taiwan...But what troubles me is that if Taiwan and China start butting heads, there's bound to be conflict. Interesting to see how this all plays out...I'll be sitting in my bunker watching closely...

China certainly being a bit of a trouble maker. Should anything exculate into a war, I would hate to see Taiwan left out to dry, like what had happened to the Ukrainians...

 
Do not worry, we will boycott trade with china and we the glorious democratic west will win within months...like with Ukraine.
I hope many are not too star stroked to realise that Taiwan is exactly the same play for the US.Push **** to hell , then gain the benefits
2021 US losing hegemony, huge USD crisis and economy, china moving to #1
2025:
China back to main foe and second on world rank, US back number one,EU dead, SE Asia and minors Korea, Japan economically annihilated..oz too
Full bipolar world, US economic crisis over with war effort and new Marshall plan.population brainwashed with new MC Cartyism... The frog in a rééducation camp for daring questionning EV, CC and CO2 or refusing to get his booster number 8 or objecting killing all his methane emitting cattle
Build your shelter..
 
 


Seems theory and reality still have a way to go prior to meeting. It would also appear dangerous when a Government Department takes over control of the supply of a product........... Nothing to see here though.


bux
 
Never underestimate nature & change.

 
Starting to see some light.



 
“Once somebody threatens you, he might threaten you again,” said Xiao Qian at a press conference on Tuesday to begin the new year..

More coercive claptrap ... I'd prefer the ambassador spoke in Mandarin; was the performance urbane? Not really. ,
 
Peter Zeihan's prognosis for China is insightful and thought provoking. Video is 4.34 mins and Australia gets a mention.

 
China on our doorstep.

"It is too early to say".

Peter Zeihan's prognosis for China is insightful and thought provoking. Video is 4.34 mins and Australia gets a mention.


Thanks for the vid @Craton . As for Mr. Zeihan's opinion, I put little store on this. The CCP Padre may have been demoted for any number of reasons and America in general is China-phobic atm. His comments on the demographic challenge are the only ones that hold water with me. Otherwise it is propaganda, not that I have anything against American propaganda.

My guess would be that China is primarily worried about the re-arming of Japan, who have a history of matching the Chinese militarily, the loss of Russia as a bulwark against Europe and finally Covid which they are the masters of mismanagement even outdoing the USA .

As for our defence against China atm. our alliances with the US, UK, Canada, India and other countries close and far should keep us secure.

My main worry is the US in relation to China. Should the US go "native" again by electing Trump, Biden or some similar muppet then our risks increase exponentially.

gg
 
Cheers @Garpal Gumnut

His many other vids are much more in-depth paticularly regarding demographics and how that plays out; especially for Germany, Japan, Russia and China, as they are too top heavy with an ageing population and no replacements coming through the rank and file. Gen Z is just not reproducing in the numbers required.

He covers a lot of ground, there are many pieces to the puzzle of globalisation. He paints in brush strokes that may be broad and based on the available statistics.
Some may say he's seen to be spruiking the US of A but, America is blessed with a huge labour pool to the south (Mexico), a resource rich neighbour to the north (Canada), a topography that is favourable and favours a large population, now thanks to shale oil is now a nett exporter etc all coupled with a govt. that isn't hell bent on using it's younger population as cannon fodder.

I agree his POV isn't the end all to be all but of lot of what he puts forward resonants.

From a DYOR investment perspective, I personally like knowing where he's parking his money and from one of his latest vids, he's strong into "energy" commodities like copper and the big four food giants like ADM.

Propaganda?
Yeah, maybe...

Peter, in his capacity as a geo-politics strategist, has advised the Australian govt. in the past so he does has creditibility. From that one short video, it is much condensed but IMHO, succint re. China.
 
On the topic of China's population, extracts from this ABC as per posted with the last 24hr.

Interested to note that India may have already overtaken China as the most populous country.
 
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I would expect that given the rampant COVID in China, there will be a lot more deaths this year, and with an already falling birth rate, China may go two years in a row with a declining population.
Mind you, they are nowhere near the trouble that the likes of Japan and the Europrean countries find themselves in.
The following table of average age per country highlights the ones that will have growing demographic problems in the future.


Australia sits below the US and China, but like the US, there are a lot of young immigrants clamouring to get here.
There are greater numbers trying to get out of China compared to those hoping to get in.
Mick
 
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