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How long before we introduce some kind of Parental License.

Baby bonus will be responsible for increased dumping too.
Lets face it, many very young females all wanted was the baby bonus, so many children will be dumped or abused and taken away.

With crisis looming what we want is less people not more.
If we expect GDP to have negative growths, why not shrink the population too?
 
If we expect GDP to have negative growths, why not shrink the population too?

I don't like the Baby Bonus myself but a higher population people can increase GDP. More labor, more talent, etc.
 
I don't like the Baby Bonus because anyone that is sensible will not factor it into a decision to make a child, hence encouraging births of children from parents who are not so sensible.

It is kind of interfering with the natural selection process in a way. Parents that would not normally afford to have kids, normally living only on welfare, are the ones driven highly by this bonus.

To be politically incorrect most people in this category will pass on the same values to their children - most (not all) will have no work ethic and expect the government to save them just like their parents did.

Most will say you shouldn't discriminate who gets the bonus as you are eugenically selecting babies. I say the baby bonus does this anyway due to its nature.

These births arguably only serve to increase the amount of spenders, not producers in the economy. While it may drive inflation, it shouldn't drive real GDP if these people don't work or do anything.
 
How long before we introduce some kind of Parental License.
Baby bonus will be responsible for increased dumping too.
Lets face it, many very young females all wanted was the baby bonus, so many children will be dumped or abused and taken away.
How about a licence for posting on this site. What factual support do you have for this? Let's face it, many people just spout right wing absurdities to get some attention.
 
I expect generations of human beings have been saying this for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. It's certainly something I frequently thought about when working in the welfare sector.

I remember one particular woman who had an IQ way, way below average, plus several physical disabilities. Unfortunately what was not below average was her libido and she was free with her, umm, affections.

The consequence was that she had five children. They were all taken away from her within weeks of their birth. But any of us suggesting she be sterilised were accused of discrimination.

We need to get a whole lot more realistic imo and take a bit less notice of individual 'rights' in some circumstances.

At least the baby bonus is now paid in installments rather than a lump sum.
And it's means tested, I think to an after tax income of $75,000.
As mentioned earlier (or maybe on your blog, Prawn) people who genuinely want children for other than financial reasons, will not be swayed by any baby bonus. But the BB does, on the other hand, definitely encourage young women who have no interest in getting a job to have more babies.
 
There was a prominent/outspoken Australian who, many years ago, suggested that everyone should be "sterilised" (medical intervention to prevent conception) and when they had proven they were responsible members of society, have it reversed. This caused some debate!

Our friend works in a bank and was serving two young women (about 20) about 6 months ago. One was wondering whether to have another child for the bonus and to up her payments. The other supplied her with a name and number of an indigenous male who would be happy to father a child. This way the first could claim extra benefits. Our friend was shocked. An example of the mindset of a small number of people??

Julia makes a good point about rights. When do societal/group rights "overrule" individual rights and vice-versa? Probably a separate debate in itself.
 

In my opinion this is fantastic idea, but impossible to mention it and not be abused.





Taxpayers are just taken for a ride and have less than nothing to say about it.

How things get twisted if we allow for disappearance of responsibility.
 
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