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Julia,As Tarnor says, I think it can be a grey area with a number of factors considered. The extremes would be obvious, but in the middle it could be difficult to say one way or the other.Ultimately I think it is the intention that is important: whether your intention is to invest for dividend income and longer-term capital gains, or to carry on a business to make profits by buying and selling shares. However, to substantiate your intention, you may need to show some of the things mentioned in that ATO article. A business-like approach is probably important if you intend to be a share trading business, meaning having things like a business and trading plan, profit forecasts, doing market analysis and research, keeping business records, etc.See also the attachments in my message near the start of this thread.A potentially risky thing to do, for that reason. If you got classed as a share trader, I think all shares in that same entity would then be classed as business trading stock and lose their 50% CGT discount. I think you'd have to be trading quite a lot though for that to happen.That's one of the reasons why I have a trust for investment and a separate company for trading.Cheers,GP
Julia,
As Tarnor says, I think it can be a grey area with a number of factors considered. The extremes would be obvious, but in the middle it could be difficult to say one way or the other.
Ultimately I think it is the intention that is important: whether your intention is to invest for dividend income and longer-term capital gains, or to carry on a business to make profits by buying and selling shares. However, to substantiate your intention, you may need to show some of the things mentioned in that ATO article. A business-like approach is probably important if you intend to be a share trading business, meaning having things like a business and trading plan, profit forecasts, doing market analysis and research, keeping business records, etc.
See also the attachments in my message near the start of this thread.
A potentially risky thing to do, for that reason. If you got classed as a share trader, I think all shares in that same entity would then be classed as business trading stock and lose their 50% CGT discount. I think you'd have to be trading quite a lot though for that to happen.
That's one of the reasons why I have a trust for investment and a separate company for trading.
Cheers,
GP
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