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Can Iraq survive America's withdrawal?

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Syrian chaos threatens Iraq, warns Sunni leader

IRAQ'S teetering democracy could be torn apart by events in neighbouring Syria in the next few weeks, according to leading figures from both sides of Baghdad's sectarian divide.

Iraq's broad coalition government already appears to be falling apart just days after the withdrawal of US troops, with Shia Muslim Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki overseeing attempts to arrest the country's most senior Sunni Muslim politician, Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi, for alleged terrorism.

Prominent Sunni Sheik Ali Sleiman al-Dumeni warns Iraq could revert to sectarian warfare if the situation in Syria is not quickly brought under control.

"We could be looking at the end of Iraq. I'm not exaggerating, Iraq might end as a nation," said Sheik Ali, the second most senior figure in the nation's largest tribe, the Dulemi.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...rns-sunni-leader/story-e6frg6so-1226227913871
 
Withdrawal as has been known for millennia will be unsatisfying for both parties, and will probably lead to unintended consequences.

gg
 
Think GG meant all the parents should have withdrawn.
This has been going on for 1,0000000000 of year why is it going to change now.
 
It doesn't pay to open a discussion on a serious subject when there are so many smartarses around.

What do you think should happen GG?

Sorry for being such a smartarse. I couldn't help meself.

You are speaking to the wrong bloke about the Middle East. It is a cesspool of patriarchal tribes hiding behind a religion thought up over a thousand years ago to keep one up on each other.

Iraq will split, and frankly I couldn't give a monkeys about it or Afghanistan, too many good Aussie boys have lost their lives there, and not just this century.

As long as we get a steady supply of oil at a reasonable price they can do to each other whatever they bloody well want, anywhere in that godforsaken region.

gg
 
+1. Get our boys out of Afghanistan and don't look back. Let them all slaughter one another.
 
Sorry for being such a smartarse. I couldn't help meself.

You are speaking to the wrong bloke about the Middle East. It is a cesspool of patriarchal tribes hiding behind a religion thought up over a thousand years ago to keep one up on each other.

Iraq will split, and frankly I couldn't give a monkeys about it or Afghanistan, too many good Aussie boys have lost their lives there, and not just this century.

As long as we get a steady supply of oil at a reasonable price they can do to each other whatever they bloody well want, anywhere in that godforsaken region.

gg

+1. Get our boys out of Afghanistan and don't look back. Let them all slaughter one another.

+2 I think it may have reached the point where the presence of USA troops is adding to their problems. Now that they have been supplied with schools, infrastructure etc, it's time to leave them to it - I hope they make good use of the funds spent in their region by the West, but somehow I doubt this will happen. Seems that conflict is an inherent part of their culture - I can't imagine I'll live long enough to see any lasting "peace" in the region.
 
Only very very strong dictators seem to be able to keep this region in any state of 'stability'. There looks to be a real risk here of Shia v Sunni open conflict dividing not just Iraq but the entire region from Morocco to Pakistan. Although, even within the major sects there seems to be massive division, so perhaps just back to tribal affiliations until something unites them. The only thing that has united them in the past seems to be external interference, eg, Western oil interests. Once the world gets over its dependance on oil and we pick up and leave this region is going to hell in a hand basket. Will be quite untidy.
 
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