wayneL
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visual said:Wayne,
fish as being healthier ,what about all the stuff that goes in the sea,and as for wild game,they live in the same enviroment as the rest of us,if the air we breath kills us why not wild game?
I know I `m being pedantic but,,,,,,,,,
I was watching this doco. where they were comparing country life to city life ,guess what when they compared a farmers lungs with a city dweller lungs the city dweller had much cleaner lungs due to all the chemicals that the farmer was breathing in.So he had a much cleaner ! enviroment than us but it was killing him.So open spaces fresh food ect..made no difference because of how we live as a society.
visual said:waynel,
stop me because I think that i`m starting to sound like a wet blanket.
Organic food,there are carcinogenics in food that occur naturally but for the chemicals that kill it,when those chemicals arent used,guess what? You guessed it, people die.
There was an article in the Herald Sun some time ago where this was discussed,the article was about an eating disorder (told you to stop me) where people only eat particular foods,be they only green foods or food that is out of the ground for only a short amount of time ect.. this person would only eat this particular food but because the food wasnt sprayed it naturally produced this particular thingy which was carcinogenic,sorry it was a while back so i cant remember what this food was I remember though that it was grown ,The eating disorder sorry that also escapes me,apparently is very rare.
It mainly affects people who try to eat only organic food or the freshest food so that it eventually turns into an obsessionlol Sorry!
The farmer messes about with chemicals and is exposed to diesel fumes from machinery for long periods or time. The diesel is the most likely cause as far as lungs are concerned to my understanding. In comparisson, any individual animal or plant on the farm is only occasionally exposed to diesel fumes whilst city dwellers receive a constant low dose.visual said:Wayne,
fish as being healthier ,what about all the stuff that goes in the sea,and as for wild game,they live in the same enviroment as the rest of us,if the air we breath kills us why not wild game?
I know I `m being pedantic but,,,,,,,,,
I was watching this doco. where they were comparing country life to city life ,guess what when they compared a farmers lungs with a city dweller lungs the city dweller had much cleaner lungs due to all the chemicals that the farmer was breathing in.So he had a much cleaner ! enviroment than us but it was killing him.So open spaces fresh food ect..made no difference because of how we live as a society.
smrt-guy said:Just touching back on the training routine. My other half (a health professional) forwarded this on to me after coming to the gym with me and looking at my usual routine.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/LowVolumeTraining.html
I had a read, it seemed fairly logical, so I thought I'd give it a shot for a few weeks. I've been very impressed with the results. Significantly less time at the gym, rarely do I pull up sore the next day, and I'm increasing my weight on most exercises by about 10% every couple of visits (so bump it up a couple of times a week).
It's made it seem almost too easy compared to my old routine.
wayneL said:Be cautious of soy products also. There is a few problems with it depending on the processing etc. Straight raw soy is full of phytites and can cause mineral malabsorption.
Cheers
RichKid said:Wayne,
Do you know of any Aussie sites which recommend the safer brands/types of soy? I think I'll do more reading on this now, thanks for bringing it up.
It's only recently that I've heard that soy can be bad for you, I thought it was A-OK. Guess not, someone said that its genetic structure is fragile and can mutate easily in nature- I have no idea if that is true or if the mutations can be harmful. I just try to avoid genetically modified (by humans) food generally...
There is no nutritional need for humans to eat any animal products; all of our dietary needs, even as infants and children, are best supplied by an animal-free diet. Our evolutionary ancestors were, and our closest primate relatives are, vegetarians. Human teeth and intestines are designed for eating and digesting plant foods, so it is no wonder that our major health problems can be traced to meat consumption.
The consumption of animal products has been conclusively linked with heart disease, cancer, diabetes, arthritis, and osteoporosis. Cholesterol (found only in animal products) and animal fat clog arteries, leading to heart attacks and strokes. A vegetarian diet can prevent 97 percent of coronary occlusions. The rate of colon cancer is highest in regions where meat consumption is high, and lowest where meat-eating is uncommon. A similar pattern is evident for breast, cervical, uterine, ovarian, prostate, and lung cancers.
Low-fat diets, particularly those without saturated fat, have been instrumental in allowing many diabetics to dispense with their pills, shots, and pumps. A study of more than 25,000 people over age 21 found that vegetarians have a much lower risk of getting diabetes than meat-eaters.
Osteoporosis, or bone loss due to mineral (particularly calcium) depletion, is not so much a result of insufficient calcium as it is a result of eating too much protein. A 1983 Michigan State University study found that by age 65, male vegetarians had an average measurable bone loss of 3 percent; male meat-eaters, 18 percent; female vegetarians, 7 percent; female meat-eaters, 35 percent
In addition to the problems associated with too much fat, cholesterol, and protein, consumers of animal products take in far greater amounts of residual agricultural chemicals, industrial pollutants, antibiotics, and hormones than do vegetarians. The absorption of antibiotics through meat-eating results in antibiotic-resistent strains of pneumonia, childhood meningitis, gonorrhea, salmonella, and other serious illnesses.
Meat contains 14 times as many pesticide residues as plant foods. Fish is another source of dangerous residues. The EPA estimates that fishes can accumulate up to nine million times the level of cancer-causing polychlorinated biphenals (PCBs) found in the waters in which they live.
Ecological Arguments
More than 4 million acres of cropland are lost to erosion in the United States every year. Of this staggering topsoil loss, 85 percent is directly associated with livestock raising, i.e., over-grazing.
Throughout the world, forests are being destroyed to support the meat-eating habits of the "developed" nations. Between 1960 and 1985, nearly 40 percent of all Central American rain forests were destroyed to create pasture for beef cattle. The rain forests are the primary source of oxygen for the entire planet; the very survival of the earth is linked to their survival. The forests also provide ingredients for many medicines used to treat and cure human illnesses, and these resources have yet to be explored for their full potential.
Much of the excrement from "food" animals (which amounts to 20 times as much fecal matter as human waste) flows unfiltered into our lakes and streams.
The production of one pound of beef requires 2,500 gallons of water. It takes less water to produce a year's worth of food for a pure vegetarian than to produce a month's worth of food for a meat-eater.
Humanitarian Concerns
Raising animals for food is an extremely inefficient way to feed a growing human population. The U.S. livestock population consumes enough grain and soybeans to feed more than five times the entire U.S. population. One acre of pasture produces an average of 165 pounds of beef; the same acre can produce 20,000 pounds of potatoes.
If Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10 percent, it would free 12 million tons of grain annually for human consumption. That alone would be enough to adequately feed each of the 60 million people who starve to death each year.
RichKid said:Had a quick look, sounds a bit like Peter Sisco's stuff (static contraction training etc) where you train on fewer occasions but at a higher intensity in your strongest zone- also notes your progress mathematically.
If Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10 percent, it would free 12 million tons of grain annually for human consumption. That alone would be enough to adequately feed each of the 60 million people who starve to death each year.
visual said:WayneL,
If Americans reduced their meat consumption by 10% nothing would change because when people starve it's not lack of food thats the problem rather it's political decisions, economics you know micro ,level playing field rarararara...........
look at zimbabwe people are starving why?
Look in our own back yard, why?
wayneL said:Rich,
The big problem is arriving at the truth as all research concerning soy is conducted by vested interests. The soy industry is one of the main antagonists in exposing the health problems of dairy. The dairy industry has counterattacked and done expose's on soy.
So imo all reserch in this area is biased on way or the other. (as is all research in any area...he who pays the piper calls the tune)
I couldn't put you onto the definitive truth in one site. It's a matter of investigation that I'm not satisfied that the full truth is available.
To me there is enough doubt to avoid ALL but traditionally fermented products. And these tend to be EXPENSIVE. (they also taste so much better than the engineered varieties)
Good luck with researching this.
Cheers
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