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Hi Jesse
My job is physically demanding(Landscape Gardener) so I tend get a good workout and get paid for it! however I try to work out 3-4 times a week and my exercise regime consists of strength training eg: push ups, sit ups, pull ups, chin ups and the only weight training I do is Militiary presses. I seldom do cardio training.

Cheers
Luke
 
I was doing body life for a while. Lost 25kg in about 3 months and my wife about 20kg. I thinks it a great program. An Aussie is in the final 6 to win the international contest in a couple of weeks. Ive been to busy to hit the gym lately (No excuse really) but am looking to hit it again in about a week. Its amazing the results you can get on the BFL program if you follow it properly.

Jesse, EAS products are good but I have to say I think they are way overpriced and you can get the same for less from other brands. Are you doing your trading through a company or trust? If you are you can use you abn to get your own account with EAS and get things a bit cheaper. When I was doing the program I found it cheaper to buy old products from America off of ebay, it worked out cheaper than buying wholesale in Australia. Secondly if your not to worried about the sugar content I have a homemade recipe around somewhere from a Aussie sports book on how to make a protien carb drink.

Scott
 
You guys are saying you are dumbell pressing 60 and 70 kg. Do you mean barbell bench press or dumbell press and your adding the the two db weights together? I ask because your both over 6 foot yet your weight is down around 75-80 kg. I only db press 45kg in each hand (not even a scratch on 70kg) at 6 foot flat and weigh 87kg. By the time I get to pressing 55kg (biggest at gym) there is no way I'll be able to stay under 90kg body weight. Unless I do some serious cutting. Diet wise I'm not too strict. I do knock the protein shakes back and also a combination creatine HMB dextrose stack. Still drink like a fish though.

John
 
I just finished a 20 kilometere run this morning and in between stop at the playground with my 9 yr old son and play on the equipment with him.....he likes that but the bike ride next to me when i run gets to him a bit.
 
The Estimator said:
You guys are saying you are dumbell pressing 60 and 70 kg. Do you mean barbell bench press or dumbell press and your adding the the two db weights together?
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On my fourth set of my chest workout I reach 60kg for 6 reps (30kg each dumbbell), and without rest drop the weight down to 25kg (12.5kg each dumbbell) for 12 reps. At this stage my muscles are fully pumped and my veins are extremely prominent. I'm short of breath and ready to pass out! This is my high point and is where I start making real gains!

my chest workout (dumbell press) is structured like this:

Set 1: 30kg (15kg X 2) for 12 reps (1 min rest)
Set 2: 40kg (20 kg X 2) for 10 reps (1 min rest)
Set 3: 50kg (25 kg X2) for 8 reps (1 min rest)
Set 4: 60kg (30kg X 2) for 6 reps (no rest)
Set 5: 25kg (12.5kg X 2) for 12 reps (2 minutes rest before next exercise)
Set 6: (body for life says do six sets but...)

My upper body workout goes on to work my back, shoulders, triceps, and biceps in the same structure as above but with smaller weights as the first few exercises are compound).

Jesse Livermore
 
If you ever want to try something different jesse, have a look at the MAX-OT program by AST, it uses low sets, low reps, longer breaks and heavy weights. It worked really well for me and a couple of other that I know, if you find yourself reaching a platuea at all do a search for it and check it out.
 
Jesse , you havent mentioned whats all this for, are you training for something or is it healthy body,healthy mind factor .I have a treadmill as well but 4klms at 12klms/h is hiking .I can do about 4klms in about 1/2 hr top speed is about 9.6 at short intervals mine can go faster but the sad thing is I cant .Please tell me why these things only go uphill not down.
 
have had years at the gym, got bored then stopped, started again, think you get the drift

I am 6'3" tall and 95kg now,play 3 hours of badminton twice a week and do 2 sets of 50 press ups in a morning, and feel guilty because it isn't enough, especially as I am near 40 now. Pretty much fat free, a bit of a belly but it's my age .

At my peak when going to the gym 4 times a week and eating high protein foods and taking a whey supplement I was over 100kg with no fat, and unfortunately looked a lot better than I do now.

I think it is extremely important to go to the gym with a group or at least one friend, as after a few years it does become harder to keep motivated and in my case I resented going in the end so stopped about 5 years ago, haven't and probably wont go back.

I wont comment on vegetarians as my sister has been one for 20 years, always got a cold etc, enough said.
 
can some kind sole out there fill me in about the body for life programme/challenge I ve been struggling to keep up with this thread for the last 2 days you fellas out there are killing me .I thought i was going well till i started reading this .The only people i could possibly keep up with at present would be Tech/a support crew plus only having the option of drinking light beer at the cricket on Tuesday has spurred me on to better things .
 
When I was saying dumbell pressing 60kg I meant 2 x 30kg dumbells... I've seen the guys at the gym who do 60kg in each arm and I wouldnt even want to be that big!

I havent been to the gym in 3 months, but I'll probably get back into it once uni goes back.

Only problem is alcohol... going out 3-4 nights a week (or probably 15-30 beers a week) is probably a major limiting factor to my fitness and strenght.

Also... there's no such thing as having no body fat. Even triathletes and other elite athletes have around 3% body fat.
 
justjohn said:
can some kind sole out there fill me in about the body for life programme/challenge?
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Body for Life is a nutrition and exercise program. It's connected with a challenge to see who can transform their body the most over a 12 week period. The winner recieves US$1,000,000.00. I haven't entered the competition. For more information checkout body for life at amazon and http://www.bodyforlife.com/

Jay-684 said:
there's no such thing as having no body fat. Even triathletes and other elite athletes have around 3% body fat.
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General Body Fact Percentage Categories

Essential Fat women: 10-12% men: 2-4%
Athletes women: 14-20% men: 6-13%
Fitness women: 21-24% men: 14-17%
Acceptable women: 25-31% men: 18-25%
Obese women: 32% plus men: 25% plus

No body fat would mean you'd probably be dead.

Jesse Livermore
 
Porper said:
I wont comment on vegetarians as my sister has been one for 20 years, always got a cold etc, enough said.
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Well there's vegetarians and then there's vegetarians.

A person could live on diet coke, hot chips and milk shakes and technically be a veggo, but he/she wouldn't be very healthy.

I've been to a doctor once in the last 15 years; and that was just for a blood test...just to doublecheck.

I almost never get colds flu etc. even when all around have them.

Lets not forget the most physically powerful animals on the planet are all herbivores.
 

I'm not saying that vegetarians can't be healthy, if a good substitute for meat is adhered to then I agree, in theory we can live a healthy life.

My experience with vegetarians, and I lived with one for 5 years and know plenty, is that they are not healthy looking and always seem to catch anything that is going around.Lean meat has protein, long chain fatty acids, B vitamins, vitamin D, iron and zinc, which if you are a vege you need to find in other foods.

But as you say, make the effort and eat properly and there wont be a problem.But, and to me here is the "but" how many of us really eat a well balanced diet ? Not many, and being a vegetarian means more effort and time which in the world we live in today isn't easy.
 
Porper said:
and being a vegetarian means more effort and time which in the world we live in today isn't easy.
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Quite true.

It is a big effort to do properly, especially in Oz, not quite so bad overseas.

Considering the negartives of meat consumption, it's worth it...IMO of course
 
wayneL said:
Quite true.

It is a big effort to do properly, especially in Oz, not quite so bad overseas.

Considering the negartives of meat consumption, it's worth it...IMO of course
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Its a big effort because its not natural.
 
I'm by no means an expert but I can never get my head around vegetarianism in the evolutionary sense. I mean in our later phases of evolution we have been omnivores. As in we eat both animal and vegetable matter. Removing one of these outright should lead to the body to become malnourished. I know modern technology allows us to make biologically similar compounds that are supposedly effective substitutes but I still dont think that we are quite smart enough to be more effective than 100s of millions of years of survival of the fittest. I mean it appears just about any non living thing we mess around with becomes a carcinogen and any living thing a pathogen. I believe if any foods should be removed from our diets it should be grain based and diary. This is for the same reasons above. Its only through the use of technology (forced evolution) that these foods have become available and or desireable to us. All I know is the healthiest I've ever felt is when I was eating just small portions of meat and reasonably alrge portions of vegetables for most meals.

PS I know I sound like the vatican here but I'm not actually against science
 
Bloveld said:
Its a big effort because its not natural.
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Don't get me started on whats natural mate I'll run rings around you.
 

About grain and dairy you are dead right. But vegetarianism isn't about eating processed foods. No messed with stuff here. I totally agree about that too.

And since you mention it, the reason I don't eat meat is because it has been so messed with. I have no problem with "wild" game meat, fish etc.

Farmed meat is s#@t.... full of hormones and antibiotics... and the cruelty in the process is breathtaking.

But once again your basic philosophy is sound.
 
Wayne,
fish as being healthier ,what about all the stuff that goes in the sea,and as for wild game,they live in the same enviroment as the rest of us,if the air we breath kills us why not wild game?
I know I `m being pedantic but,,,,,,,,,

I was watching this doco. where they were comparing country life to city life ,guess what when they compared a farmers lungs with a city dweller lungs the city dweller had much cleaner lungs due to all the chemicals that the farmer was breathing in.So he had a much cleaner ! enviroment than us but it was killing him.So open spaces fresh food ect..made no difference because of how we live as a society.
 
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