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Is this is the openly gay inaugaral Parliamentary Leader of the Australian Greens who nearly got booted out of the Senate for unpaid legal bills for $240,000 when he took on Forestry Tasmania and lost? The same person who had to arrange an appeal to his constituents for donations and good 'ol Dick Smith helped him with a sizeable wad of cash? This is the same human being that is a strident tree hugging, pillow biting, arrested 5 times, heckler of President Bush, nude sleeping, thorn in the side of parliament? Never heard of him.
 
Trembling Hand said:
I'm in Tanners electorate and mentioned to friends on the weekend that I might actually vote for the greens. After everyone stopped laughing I tried to reason that my vote for liberal will just be wasted but there is a chance that it could help to kick out one idiot to be replaced by a less powerful one. they still laughed :D:(
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Yep this is my electorate too. I was thinking the same thing as there is no way that the Libs will ever win Melbourne. So take out one of the Gang of Four (even though I did have a soft spot for Lindsay at a stage).

Go the beanie wearing, latte sipping socialist tree huggers of Fitzroy! At least I will be able to enjoy a stroll through our old growth forests when I have nothing to do due to financial armageddon that will ensue with Bob as our PM ;)
 
Greens will end up with balance of power, due to dissillusion with other options.

If anyone saw Australian Story about the buisinessman that campaigned for himself on Green issues in John Howards electorate, I have no doubt that was why he lost his seat, apart from Maxine. ( cant remember his name but he was a property executive)

Now that Rudd has assholed his promises on Green issues, he stinks among those so inclined
 
As much as I detest 4Corners these days for being the ABCs "Today Tonight", last week they ran a piece on Securency. You can still catch it on ABC iView, I showed it to incredulous friends last night.

You know, that company half owned by the RBA, that was implicated in huge international bribery scandals involving the heads of state and heads of Central Banks from all over the world?

Well, Bob Brown was one of the speakers. As he pointed out:

Both John Howard and Kevin Rudd governments have voted down any investigation into the matter SEVEN TIMES despite international pressure and huge reams of evidence from a whistleblower. Even when they were in opposition neither party would dare to upset this huge boat that is even bigger scandal than AWB Iraq kickbacks.

Yet, here is BB on national television discussing the issue.

I think this scenario paints the entire picture. Vote Liberal or Labour and you are a defacto mushroom: fed on bull**** and kept in the dark (the current BP scandal makes it blatantly obvious that this sort of behaviour is now the defacto norm all over the Western world). At least BB has the balls to say it like it is.

And yes, this is the same BB who nearly got booted out of the Senate for unpaid legal bills. Is that supposed to be an article of shame or something? His supporters helped him out, even Dick Smith paid a lump. If Kevin Rudd or Tony Abott was lying on the side of the road bleeding and begging for medical assistance I would rather spit on them at this point than do anything to help them. Meanwhile the people of this nation are giving their hard earned to keep Bob in Senate! It's not like he spent the peoples money on crack and hookers like most politicians. He put his own money on the line to defend against Forestry Tasmania and couldn't front the margin call.
 
Hi Trainspotter,

I'm not a greens supporter. However I do feel the need to defend Bob Brown against your comments below.

trainspotter said:
Is this is the openly gay
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Why is this relevant? Is there something wrong with being gay?
inaugaral Parliamentary Leader of the Australian Greens who nearly got booted out of the Senate for unpaid legal bills for $240,000 when he took on Forestry Tasmania and lost?
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I applaud his determination to fight on issues he believes to be vitally important, even if I abhor his ability to do sums.
The same person who had to arrange an appeal to his constituents for donations and good 'ol Dick Smith helped him with a sizeable wad of cash?
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Wasn't that nice of Dick? I don't see how it's relevant beyond his deplorable skill at math or budgeting.
This is the same human being that is a strident tree hugging, pillow biting,
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Once again you mention him being gay in a negative manner....homophobic much Train?
arrested 5 times,
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And convicted how many times?
heckler of President Bush,
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Hell if I'd had the chance I would have heckled President Bush as well.
nude sleeping,
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????? Who cares if he wears jim jams when he sleeps?
thorn in the side of parliament?
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I do like some of the things he says to keep the rest of them at least somewhat honest.
Never heard of him.
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Cheers

Sir O
 
Trembling Hand said:
Why? because his not so gay? or because his not a flaming socialist tree hugging hippy?
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I have no problems with homosexuality or hippys.

History has shown Bob Brown has been useless like t1ts on a bull .

At least with Humphrey one can guide him where you want him to go without a word of complaint .

Vote 1 for Humphrey.
 
No possibility of an embarrassing Malcolm in Memphis moment with Humphrey either.
 
Sir Osisofliver said:
Hi Trainspotter,

I'm not a greens supporter. However I do feel the need to defend Bob Brown against your comments below.

Why is this relevant? Is there something wrong with being gay? I applaud his determination to fight on issues he believes to be vitally important, even if I abhor his ability to do sums. Wasn't that nice of Dick? I don't see how it's relevant beyond his deplorable skill at math or budgeting. Once again you mention him being gay in a negative manner....homophobic much Train? And convicted how many times? Hell if I'd had the chance I would have heckled President Bush as well. ????? Who cares if he wears jim jams when he sleeps? I do like some of the things he says to keep the rest of them at least somewhat honest.

Cheers

Sir O
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Satire is wasted in this place. He is more famous for the wrong things rather than his skill as a politician. But I digress yet again.
 
Sir Osisofliver said:
Text is a hard medium to verify tone...try /satire at the end next time and then there is no confusion. /grumpy

Cheers

Sir O
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I would have thought the last sentence of "Never heard of him" would have quantified this juxstaposition. I will in future add the appropriate addage to clear up any misunderstandings. /tongue in cheek
 
I'm not just saying this to be contentious.... but I think Bob Brown would be a good PM. I am not necessarily saying the greens would do a great job runnin the country, but I think Bob Brown is a man of some integrity.

I don't follow politics all that closely, but he was right about Bush- being a muderous warmonger, while Howard was happy to support the IRAQ invasion.
I don't think Howard was necessarily a bad PM, and certainly he/Costello can run the economy very confidently.

And I wouldn't mind seeing a government that actuaaally had environment on the agenda (not just CO2 talks). I cannot split the Libs and Labour on environment, it is not really what govts elected in this country, and receives focus accordingly. Kev wimped out of the ETS, and Peter Garratt has been a bloody disaster as environment minister. (IMO)

As far as the Greens go, I think they would be excellant in local govt or maybe even a state level- as I think they have something to offer on a town planning/transport/waste level. But Federal.... with open immigration policies etc.... I'm not so sure. Anyway, I just wanted to cast one positive vote for Brown. :D
 
Call me xenophobic if you like but I doubt that anyone that does not have normal family values would understand normal family requirements and be able to fulfill the wishes of normal families in this day and age. Therefore he is out on that basis with me.

In addition his green values are too extreme and he would want to impose those same values on the rest of us. As an example,take Tasmania. It is unable to stand on its own because of its excessive green values. His policy on forestry has seen the wholesale clearing of native forests and had them replaced with sterile pine forests. The policy of the forestry dept was heading towards sustainable logging of forests but by the loggers looking after the forests they kept them near pristine and the greenies grabbed them and locked them up for good. So we have clear felling and sterile pine plantations in their place.

Tasmania should have plenty of cheap hydro power that would allow industry to thrive there. Instead the no dams policy killed that off.

Maybe you could have Brown as the President of the Republic of Tasmania.:2twocents
 
nioka said:
Call me xenophobic if you like but I doubt that anyone that does not have normal family values would understand normal family requirements and be able to fulfill the wishes of normal families in this day and age. Therefore he is out on that basis with me.
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Xenophobic?? You may want to look that one up. I think you mean Homophobic.

"Normal" family :banghead:

<EDIT> unless Tasmanian is now deemed a different country, lol.
 
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