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I see that Norway took about 14000 refugees last year,and similar the year before.Quite impressive for a country with barely five million people.
 
I see that Norway took about 14000 refugees last year,and similar the year before.Quite impressive for a country with barely five million people.

They also gave ole smokin' Barack the Nobel Peace Prize, after he'd been in office for 9 weeks.

They are a nation of muppets.

So don't quote them on refugees mate. I wouldn't trust them to make me a highball, Cuba Libre, it would be full of jazmine.

gg
 
I dont understand why everyone gets hung up on boat people. If we are talking illegal immigrants, then most of the estimated 60,000 illegal immigrants in Australia are not asylum seekers hoping to be judged as refugees. Most illegal immigrants arrive by air and overstay their visas. They are generally tourists, students or people granted temporary-residence permits. They do not get much media attention and the Government does not appear to consider them a serious threat.

Maybe we should be worrying more about the tourists than the boat people.
 

i know a lot of uk people who married here but never lived as husband and wifes, then divorced immediately after being granted citizenship..

i know indians and pakistanis who paid immigration officers 5k to get a visa to australia, then did the usual thing in getting a permanent place here..

some of the crime lords in illegal immigration are employees of the australian government. and some end up on a boat too long and turn the ship around and get the hell away from australia and panic big time when they are caught. as we see today...

these people travel illegally through many countries, and are very skilled at keeping all their cash away from the pirates and thieves and opportunists along the way..

are they persecuted and will they face persecution if they go back to their home country? imho the greater majority will not

imho the moment they leave their border then they are safe, so why travel so long and far to australia, all of asia beacons with opportunity, and all countries they pass through can easily deal with a few thousand illegal immigrants.. imho there are a lot of people claiming to be persecuted and in exile but may in fact not be at all but merely wanting opportunity here in australia.

imho economics are the attraction. ad its not poor and impoverished that arrive today like the Vietnamese runs we had years back, these immigrants are a new breed, have a lot of cash in hand and big bucks to turn over.. how they got hold of those sums is also never questioned!
 
Its not just Australia that is getting an influx of boat people, its happening to all the other countries as well.

We are complaining about 1,000, Europe is getting 35,000

I do feel for them as where are they to go?


But Europe has no choice, as the people can walk there. We do have a choice as we are an island. That's tough luck for Europe and good luck for us.

We should not be a soft touch here. Keep them out now, as it will just get much much tougher in the years ahead. Africa, the Middle East and Asia are headed for a nightmare situation with their exploding populations. That's not our problem, we should look after ourselves.

Thousands wanting to come here now, will be multi millions in the decades ahead.
 
Sri Lanka to France you can walk?

Thats a new one..

Sorry I dont think like you.
 
My boss was a "boat person" from vietnam in the 70's now he earns 6 figures, has a family and is proud to call Australia home.

Australians really need a reality check about asylum seekers. More people cross the border illegally into the USA from Mexico without being picked up and processed before breakfast than enter Australia by boat all year. Also the amount of asylum seekers in Australia is nothing compared to countries like France, Italy and Spain.
 
You seem to have an intimate knowledge of Norwegians,their integrity ,character and worth.Where did you gain this information GG?
 

Agentm - what's the story with the lack of capitals?

I notice you capitalise your own user name and also you managed to slip a capital onto the word "Vietnamese". If you type your post initially into a free program like Open Office Writer it will take care of capitalising for you, then just cut and copy it into ASF. Making your post easier for others to follow, how hard can it be?
 
Gerard Henderson in the SMH today:


Perhaps Mr Rudd is on the wrong track when he rants about the people smugglers. Perhaps we should, after all, let the people smugglers decide who shall come to Australia. That way, we get the pick of the crop.
 
Senator David Johnston, Opposition Defense Spokesman, made a valid point in parliament yesterday (reported on Lateline last night) when he said,

"So many young Afghan men are coming to this country on these boats while our young men, our best and finest young men, are in their country fighting the taliban."

These "asylum seekers" say they come here looking for freedom, so it's about time we sent them back to their countries to fight for their freedom instead of allowing them to run away like cowards.
 
No worries, let's build a big training centre in the Kimberleys.

The centre would be staffed by ex-managers of the FMF and PIF.

As all these 'refugees' come in, they should be shipped to the training camp and taught how to run managed funds by the ex-managers.

They could then be sent back (after a decent feed and some new clothes) to their native countries to make a fortune.
 
This is an irony which has occurred to me too. Why should young Australians be fighting for a decent existence for the people of Afghanistan and Iraq, when their own apparently healthy young men can't do likewise?

One answer I've come up with is that Australia as part of the so called Coalition of the Willing, engaged in destroying much of these countries on a poorly thought out and illogical pretext, so perhaps we owe them something.
I don't know. There are many ways of considering the many aspects of this whole miserable situation.
 
These "asylum seekers" say they come here looking for freedom, so it's about time we sent them back to their countries to fight for their freedom instead of allowing them to run away like cowards.
Surely there's a material difference between a trained, equipped and organised force and a group of individuals with no particular skills, training, equipment or leadership?

When's the last time you fought for your freedom?
 
Perhaps assylum seekers look for safer lives,as the first priority.
Politicians only play politics,not to be taken seriously.
Before we call others cowards perhaps we should all have a good look in the mirror.
 
The politicians are getting tiring with this saga

well said doctorj and dbcok
 
Surely there's a material difference between a trained, equipped and organised force and a group of individuals with no particular skills, training, equipment or leadership?

When's the last time you fought for your freedom?

Sounds very impressive what you just wrote. Can you please put it into layman terms?
 
When's the last time you fought for your freedom?

Hey Doc, why attack the messenger?

I'm sure you're wise enough to know that Australians haven't gone to war to protect their freedom since WWII, but when they had to, they did.

Yes, there was the 'Brisbane Line' and people did run from the Cities to the bush, but did they migrate to a better life and safety in Tasmania? No, they didn't.

Well, if it's safety that's their goal, then these 'refugees' are passing through quite a few safe places to get here.

I think it's all a croc. It's all about economics.

Aren't they lucky we don't adopt the policy of playing 'bomb the boat'?

If it's good enough for their cousins, uncles, sisters, brothers, supporters, etc. to play political games to get them in, then surely if any of us have alternative views we should be allowed to express our views.

I'd guess Australia is still a democracy, and each of us are entitled to express our view.

Please, please, please - don't attack me, attack my argument.
 

Perhaps we could send Manny Cassamatis up to the Kimberleys to take charge of their training. He knows all about making money, and I hear he's looking for a new career.
Make him serve 20 years up there instead of throwing him in a Queensland jail.
 
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