Beware Garuda

MrBurns · 7 April 2009

Geez I didnt know they were this bad - from Crikey -

Banned in Europe, but Garuda still calls Australia home
Ben Sandilands writes:

Ongoing inquiries by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau make it clear that Garuda remained capable of being a menace to air safety in this country until at least 17 December last year.

That was when one of its 737-400s approaching Darwin failed to comply with an air traffic control clearance to descend to 3000 feet and dropped to 2000 feet instead.

The control tower then spotted the jet when it was about 700 feet above the ground some distance north of the runway and ordered a go-around be flown, apparently because of concerns it might crash before reaching the airport.

This is one of two alarming displays of incompetent flying by the Indonesian carrier that are under ATSB investigation as Marwoto Komar, the Garuda captain that crashed a 737 at Yogyakarta on 7 March 2007 prepares to appeal a two year sentence for criminal negligence handed down in a Jakarta court yesterday.

That crash killed 21 people, including five Australians, and was a factor in the EU banning all Indonesian airlines from its airspace indefinitely.

The other incident, first reported in Crikey, occurred at Perth Airport on 9 May last year when another Garuda 737 first abandoned an attempt to land on a runway which was closed for repair.

That crew circled back, ignored a control tower call to abort their landing and then flew low over the construction workers and their equipment to land in the remaining section of the closed runway.

It was spoken of at the time as one of the most gratuitously stupid and dangerous things any airline had ever done at Perth Airport in living memory.

Crikey understands that the notification of the runway’s unavailability was conveyed in the normal manner to the airline for operations planning purposes, and also transmitted to the pilots as a message prior to their approaching Perth.

While the ATSB continues its investigations the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) today said its enhanced audits and monitoring of Garuda in the aftermath of the Yogyakarta crash has not identified "any significant safety issues that warrant a change to Garuda’s operations in Australia."

aohx075 · 7 April 2009

Re: Beware Geruda

lol that's very shocking but funny at the same time...

Maybe the pilot's English isn't very good or their radio equipment is faulty...either way behaviour like that would warrant a banning

Kez180 · 8 April 2009

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my old man's mate Cynthia was crippled in that crash... The one in Yogyakarta, She is a journalist and used to run marathons etc...

Pretty ****ed up, the people she was travelling with died...

Joe Blow · 8 April 2009

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MrBurns,

Just wondering if the thread title is misspelled for a reason?

Should I rename it?

Kez180 · 8 April 2009

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Joe Blow said:
MrBurns,

Just wondering if the thread title is misspelled for a reason?

Should I rename it?

I think it is a typo...

Joe Blow · 8 April 2009

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Kez180 said:
I think it is a typo...

I thought so too but figured I would check.

Have renamed it for the moment.

MrBurns · 8 April 2009

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Joe Blow said:
I thought so too but figured I would check.

Have renamed it for the moment.

It was supposed the be Beware Garuda, what did I put in ?

oh i see used an e instead of a

pilots · 8 April 2009

GARUDA, stands for, Good And Reliable Under Dutch Administration.

pointr · 8 April 2009

Well done pilots, that could probably sum up many other ex colonies as well.
Eg, ideaologies aside was the average Rhodesian better off than the average Zimbwabean.

Kez180 · 8 April 2009

pilots said:
GARUDA, stands for, Good And Reliable Under Dutch Administration.

It is a mythical bird that is the Indonesian national symbol...

Boggo · 8 April 2009

pointr said:
Well done pilots, that could probably sum up many other ex colonies as well.
Eg, ideaologies aside was the average Rhodesian better off than the average Zimbwabean.

Nah, there was less millionaires

johenmo · 8 April 2009

From memory, a Garuda jet tried to land on the road at Perth international years/decades ago instead of the airstrip. Good to see they are maintaining their standards, rather than letting them slip.

Wouldn't fly Garuda then, won't fly it now.

glenn_r · 8 April 2009

No airline is cruder than Garuda...

I remember vividly flying out of Bali many years ago in a Garuda 747, the computers were down in the "tin shed" so we were given seat allocations like a chook raffle, our bags were not weighed just tagged, one our bags was full of wood carvings and stuff like most others there, anyway the plane was chocka block full and as the pilot lined up the runway he gunned the engines and normally you get that sinking feeling in the back of seat as it heads down the runway not this time just a shudder and then it started slowly increasing speed.
As the runway juts out into the water there I could see the water coming closer and closer but we were still on the ground, finally we are running out of runway very quickly so the pilot lifts the nose and as the engines laboured we left the ground, I could see the wheels had started running in the dirt at the end of the runway, then the pilot turns the plane 90 degrees and I watched in amazement as the wing tip missed the water by a metre or so, phew OK as it laboured up to cruising altitude I started to regain my composure and had a bourbon or 10.
The plane landed in Sydney before going onto Melbourne, now we sort of fell out of the sky like a rock as the pilot cut back the engines and we started the decline into Sydney after many bursts of power to keep us in the air we landed at Sydney in what was the hardest landing I have ever experienced which resulted in blowing out a few tyres.

Since that flight I or my family will never ever fly Garuda again....

Garpal Gumnut · 12 December 2009

Avoid Garuda Unsafe Airline

The Indonesian justice system is quite different from ours.

The acquital on appeal of the pilot Marwoto Komar, who I thought wwas convincingly negligent in the landing of the Boeing 737 in 2007 is amazing and bewildering.

Twenty one people were killed including five Australians, and many were maimed, in the botched landing at Yogyakarta airport.

Garuda is a very very unsafe airline.

His defence was mechanical problems.

So they either have dodgy pilots who cannot slow a plane sufficiently to land safely, or they have dodgy maintenance.

Avoid Garuda. Vote with your pockets and feet.

gg

imajica · 12 December 2009

I flew Garuda last year, never again!

interior is crap, food is crap, full of bogans.

did not feel safe.

Sean K · 12 December 2009

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Garpal Gumnut said:
The Indonesian justice system is quite different from ours.

The acquital on appeal of the pilot Marwoto Komar, who I thought wwas convincingly negligent in the landing of the Boeing 737 in 2007 is amazing and bewildering.

Twenty one people were killed including five Australians, and many were maimed, in the botched landing at Yogyakarta airport.

Corby gets 20 years for some dope that makes people chill.

Pilot gets freedom for kill.

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