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Beginner keen to place first trade

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Hi all

I am a new member to this forum, but have been watching from the unregistered list for quite some time, and have found it to be a great source of information so far.

As the title suggests i am only a beginner in the trading world and have yet to place my first trade, so still have a lot to learn, and a few questions about stuff that i cant seem to make sence of.

Firstly i suppose i will explain my plan, after recently moving to Australia from New Zealand earlier this year i applied for my tax return and got quite a hefty pay out of around 4k which i am ready to throw at the market, at this stage i plan to buy into an etf because i think it could be something stable, diverse and providing i pick the right one will net me with some returns in the long term (i plan to leave the money in this etf for 1-2 years).

After looking at different lists of etfs ones that have caught my attention are:
VAS
IOZ
STW

My main question is, why would anybody go for VAS, with a dividend yield of 4.35% and a franking dividend of 7.83%, when they could go for SWT which has a dividend yield of 4.11% but a franking dividend of 61.49%?

The only thing that makes sense to me is the fact that if you had them in a dividend reinvestment plan the franking dividends would be disregarded as they would not be listed as a taxable income? Also when purchasing the shares where can i choose to to have the dividends reinvested? I have signed up with ANZ e-trade as i already had a bank account with them and they made the whole process very easy to set up for a beginner.

Following this initial trade, i can save roughly 1100 a fortnight until it reaches 4-5k which then i will place another trade, in something elce that i have studied, quite possibly another etf as they seem like quite a safe option.

I realize this is a lot to take in and no hard advice is able to be given on these forums, but at this stage im really keen to get my foot in the door and start trading!!

Any help would be appreciated and please.. if im way off the mark dont hesitate to let me know :):)
 
From your intro., these are the things I would consider

1. what reason will I sell the asset (time, data, technical, fixed gain, other)
2. what will I do if the asset price is less than what I paid for it when my set holding period is up
3. "after capital gains tax", what is the net return (5% of 4k is $200/year before tax or about $16/month or about 53 cents/day)

*** (not considering compounding effects and the 50% discount ruling for a CGT event on greater than 12 month hold and the market/asset risk) ***
 
Hi Wysiwyg, thanks for the reply

At this stage i am unsure on how long im planning to hold the trade open, all i have planned is to have it open for at least the first 12 months so as i get the 50% discount on CGT after it all, but if the trade is still holding (and hopefully gaining) value then i wouldn't be in any rush to sell.

Are you suggesting i go for aim for the funds giving a higher return? Obviously that would be taking on more risk if im correct?

Is there any tips you could give for knowing what fund to choose and when the right time to get into the fund it?

Also which funds offer a dividend reinvestment scheme? Or is that organised through my broker?

Thanks
 
Are you suggesting i go for aim for the funds giving a higher return? Obviously that would be taking on more risk if im correct?
No suggestions on what to aim for.
Is there any tips you could give for knowing what fund to choose and when the right time to get into the fund it?
No I can't do that. It is not like a Term Deposit of receiving x return after y period.
Also which funds offer a dividend reinvestment scheme? Or is that organised through my broker?
The all important fund details that I source are available on their website. I have never taken a reinvestment option.

Someone else could add more.
 
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