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BCS - BrisConnections Unit Trusts


Imagine this story (in Lord of the Ring setting)...

The Shire was under attack from the Orcs and all the little hobbits were scared and worried. Gandolf rode into the Shire, rallied everyone and tried to build up their defense (using his own contractors so he made money on the construction). On the eve of the attack, however, Gandolf did a deal with the evil white wizard Saruman. He was paid $4.5m and left the Hobbits to meet their own fate.

Now - the Hobbits are no worse off then they started. But would they still invite Gandolf over for a cup of tea the next time they meet?
 
Now - the Hobbits are no worse off then they started. But would they still invite Gandolf over for a cup of tea the next time they meet?

And would Gandolf really give a damn if they didnt?
 
An excerpt from this article: Stunned investors vent fury at chairman - doesn't look like Jim has a cup of tea in mind...


The article also describes a little of what went on in the meeting yesterday.
 

I know who I'd be annoyed at. Rowe is claiming that the right thing is for retail investors to be hit with a bill they can't pay.

And Macquarie could always declare they would pay instead.

Investors could also have purchased enough shares to be in Bolton's position.
 
Investors could also have purchased enough shares to be in Bolton's position.
Steve, I'd guess that many of the investors who discovered their liability would (a) never have begun to thought of any such move, and (b) be too shocked and fearful to consider buying more shares.

I'm still astonished at the ballsiness of young Bolton. Not too many 26 year olds would take on Macquarie et al.
 
ABC report: BrisConnections not optimistic about investor lifeline

The BrisConnections chairman says he is not optimistic about reaching a deal to help investors who say they cannot make payments on their shares.

It would be interesting to know how many unwitting retail investors are actually still holding. We have read reports that some have transferred to Bolton, Jim Byrnes and JAB charity. Was thinking that if the number of retail holders diminishes significantly, perhaps there will be less effort to get the remaining ones out.
 

He's done well out of it assuming he can hold on to the $4.5 million. I just get annoyed at people getting annoyed at Bolton... (No opinion yet as to whether what he did was good/bad etc.)

Macquarie purchased some shares to try to block him, they sold the shares to the retail investors in the first place, and if they chose to they could buy the shares back and save the retail investors.
 
Here's an excerpt on the news report of Bolton's response: Bolton defends BrisConnections backflip


Only time will tell what his intentions really are...
 
I would love to know how the ASF'er holders are doing? Have you transferred the liability? Would like to think you are all good now. Any chance of a roll call?
 
I would love to know how the ASF'er holders are doing? Have you transferred the liability? Would like to think you are all good now. Any chance of a roll call?

There has been so many opportunities for unit holders to get rid of their holdings it would be interesting to know how many retail shareholders remain.

Off the top of my head there has been:

1. Bolton (19.9%)
2. Macquarie Bank buying 8%
3. Bryne acting for the US hedge fund (???%)
4. Barlow Charity (5%)
5. Another one (not sure on name) (???%)

can anyone fill in the blanks
 
Personally, if I held them I would be looking to jump off the train for the reasons you have stated above.

That being said though the underwriters are not going to be able to extract blood from a stone even though they have the legal right to recover the debt. There's also broader politics involved given that the road is being built on behalf of the Queensland Government. That therefore leads to the possibility of some sort of deal being worked out between DB/Macquarei/QIC and the Queensland Government to relieve retail unitholders of their obligations.
 
I'm tempted to ask how you voted at the meeting but that is now history. With regard to donors from the meeting I'm suprised you wern't swamped.

If worst comes to the worst will the charity be able to pay the $1 per unit instalment on it's 5% holding and if not what will be the fate of the charity ?
 

To add to the above questions, were you surprised that you only got 5%? were you making people aware/announcing that you were after their units? if so why dont you think everyone donated them?

It just seems so odd that unit holders have been given a way out, yet havnt taken it. I surpose people who are not up to date with their info or dont use internet forums might not be aware of all the people/groups interested in acquiring units.
 
EDIT:

Off the top of my head there has been:

1. Bolton (19.9%)
2. Macquarie Bank buying 8%
3. Bryne acting for the US hedge fund (13%)
4. Barlow Charity (5%)
5. Another one (not sure on name) (???%)

Thats 45.9% so far
 
EDIT:

Off the top of my head there has been:

1. Bolton (19.9%)
2. Macquarie Bank buying 8%
3. Bryne acting for the US hedge fund (13%)
4. Barlow Charity (5%)
5. Another one (not sure on name) (???%)

Thats 45.9% so far
Of the institutional holders other than Macquarie, QIC has 10%, World Capital 7% and Leehman Brothers 4.5%.

http://economics.com.au/?p=2667

Another 39m units (10%) are for sale on the ASX.
 
How Nick Bolton Pocketed a Cool $4.5m.

By Terry McCrann
April 15, 2009 12:00am
 
Not sure whether this question has been asked or answered, but as April 21st is coming real soon (next week), I just have a question regarding the liability.

According to Brisconnections communications, 21 April is date when liability for payment is determined.

As I have already signed an acceptance form to sell my share to a third party, if the transfer has not occurred before 21 April, then I am liable for the $1 call. If the transfer occur after 21 April, does it mean the new owner is not liable, but I am still liable.

IE, if transfer after 21 April, I need to pay $1 but at the same time I don't have any shares anymore.
 
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