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Asylum-seekers 'dead, missing' in explosion on way to Christmas Island

Taliban are not the existential threat as reported by the media. It is a strategy (although stupid) of making the west coughing up the money, so that it can prop up its army and bureaucracy, which is creating this whole charade.
Are you talking about the current regime in Afghanistan? Are they creating a charade to make the west believe in order to stay in the area? Is this what you mean? It 's not clear in your post what you were stating.

If so, what about Paskistan?
 
a simple google search begs to differ.

As per you selective "pick and choose" style of mis-information you must have forgotten to read that all nukes of Pakistan are based on HEU.

The U.S.-based Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) estimates that Pakistan has built 24–48 (Highly Enriched Uranium) HEU-based nuclear warheads with HEU reserves for 30-52 additional warheads.[9][10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

The nuclear plants used for power generation might be based on Plutonium. But the simple fact is current available devices are based on Uranium, ask any expert on nuclear war heads and he will tell you that.

and you base this on what?

Because of recent history. When they get a continuous supply of money as per Bush Administration given to Musharaf, there were not that much fuss. Now that there is no money coming in, they have created this "huge monster", which is about to engulf Pakistan.

Are you saying that Pakistan Army with 7-largest military (by quantity not quality) in the world is not able to fight 5-20 thousand loosely connected Talibans? It is all about money and weapons they are trying to get passed through the American congress, on the basis that if they don't do it Pakistan will collapse soon. It is all a media charade. You will know soon, when the money start tickling in it will all be "under-control".
 

No, I was just stress testing your thesis which you postulated at the start of this thread that Afghanis can seek Asylum in Pakistan or Iran, and only the rich can come here to take advantage of Australian system. I can see some reasoning here.

But Tamils, according to you should be legitimate asylum cases, because of the current war in Sri Lanka and Australia being their first destination.

Of course I will support that any person coming to Australia should be tested as a valid asylum seeker, and if found otherwise should be sent back on his boat. No need to even fly them back, if they can come by boat, they can leave by boat...

Again, where have I stated anything about taking in the refugees? Oh yes in you paranoid world, anyone who disagrees with you must be supporting the intake. Typical "with us or against us" mentality, inherited from your spiritual leader.
 
Are you talking about the current regime in Afghanistan? Are they creating a charade to make the west believe in order to stay in the area? Is this what you mean? It 's not clear in your post what you were stating.

If so, what about Paskistan?

I am talking about Pakistan, not Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a lost cause, their tribal system is not ready for "freedom and democracy" exported by America.

Give the Taliban some share in power and you might see peace there, at least for a short time. Till they again start fighting over a sheep (and I kid you not!). Employ the Iraq strategy of isolating the sunni insurgency from AQ and then give them some share in power and peace will follow.


The problem with Afghanistan is that it is a land-locked strategic country. Which can be used by America for keeping an eye on Pakistan, China, Russia, Iran and India. Now why would America ever want to leave such a strategic place...
 

So your view is that the US, Japan, and all the other countries throwing money at Pakistan are too stupid to realize the game plays of the murderers of Benazir Bhutto.....the situation isn't as amenable to dumbing down to your quaint level of understanding Mayk. It isn't just a matter of 5-20k of loosely connected opium farmers....it is a struggle against manipulative extremists who exploit the poor and desperate throughout Pakistan and the middle east, to carry out insurgent operations......this isn't just a war against the Taliban, it is a war against manipulators like Al Queda who manipulate the minds of young Muslims everywhere to die doing their bidding, and are discarded like pawns on a chess board.
 

where did you say anything about taking in the refugees????? how about reading your first paragraph above, you sad twisted little boy....now go back to futzing with your linux box and learning how to use google......hahahahha
 

where did you say anything about taking in the refugees????? how about reading your first paragraph above, you sad twisted little boy....now go back to futzing with your linux box and learning how to use google......hahahahha

Well, in a linear mind, not clogged by the "Commies are about to get you" paranoia, sequence is important. On the timeline, you accused me of supporting the intake of refugees before that post.

If there are laws and procedures in place and they are being followed, what is your problem? If you really want to do something, call your local MP and tell them about your dissatisfaction. Posting here won't win you any laurels.


P.S. By taking in the refugees I meant without any proper legal work, in my previous post.
 


I agree the class struggle, and an intelligent manipulation by extremist elements for their political gain. But I also think a bigger game is played in that region than people realize. Pakistan is trying to exploit that situation to gain some military and economic favors, which is really stupid. Because as they say if you play with fire you get burned. Now the playing part seems to be over for Pakistan.

A more proper approach to tackle AQ would be to form an UN elite force, capable of operating in any part of the world where AQ is present. It would make more sense than trying to occupy the whole region in the name of "providing security". As they say, whoever wants to trade freedom for security, deserves neither.
 
P.S. By taking in the refugees I meant without any proper legal work, in my previous post.

hey, I have my own perpetual fresh daily supply of premium grade laurels.........no guilt driven sycophantic fawning for world adoration in this little black duck....


gawd, you just keep digging a deeper hole.....so how exactly does an Australian new graduate lawyer, under the paternal guidance of 'Barnsey, Dollar Signs in the Eyes Marr, and Associates', prove that a bloke from Afghanistan who just got off the boat, actually had his life threatened more than any of the 3.3 million Hazara who weren't compelled to leave town?????


Hey, maybe Rudd can employ a member of the Taliban to come over here and argue the case for the defence.......I can see it now.....Marr in all his melodramatic existential angst, shouting and spitting to the judge and jury, that this man's life is at risk if we unconscionably send him back to Afghanistan.....we can't do it in all good conscience your honour.....

The Taliban man will say, We never threatened to kill him.....we only threatened to beat him if he shaved..........

Marr will turn around and screaaammmmmm "Your Honour, how can we possibly let this man return to a country that does not grant the fundamental human right of shaving....I say this man before you, his wellbeing is at risk, if he is sent back to Afghanistan...."

hahahahhahahehehehehhehehohohoohoh.......I gotta go for a moment Mayk....point percy at the pommy porcelain, shake hands with the wife's best friend.....but thanks for the entertainment......and look forward to having a few more laughs.....

which Linux dist are you using btw?
 

First of all they cannot hire expensive lawyers, most of them would be the do-goody, hippy enough-space-for-all-of-us sort of fella you despise. So dollar in the eye question is out.

Second, let the judge decide. Stop being one.

Linux, mostly Fedora.
 

But Mayk, lawyers have native rat cunning....and not just any rat.....they've got more front than a fat black rat with a gold tooth.

The Marrs and Barnse's of the world aren't interested in being in court every day......nooooooo....what they want is to set a few precedents with a few court appearances, then get back to the office, set up a few asylum seeking tick the box templates, put em on the web, then bill the govt a grand or so for each application processed......it is all about passive income for ageing booomers like Marr.....that leaves him time for free advertising with regular contra appearances with the 'get on the bleeding heart bandwagon' brigade at SBS.....you know.....Tony Jones and Jenny Brockie

OK, I gotta meeting with my personal trainer.....be back this arvo...
 
Rudd's policies encourage would-be asylum seeker

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/24/2551337.htm

Hope Rudd has some spare beds at his place, sounds like the detention centres will be over flowing in no time.

This highlights how Chairman Rude ties himself up in knots when he deceives the electorate in order to impose his dream, born of an inadequate personality, on us...

- firstly he acknowledges global instability is on the rise and that is increasing asylum seekers....

- then he acknowledges there is a rumour mill out there encouraging people to come to the land of milk, honey, and Rudd's welfare.


Then, what does he do in the face of that......relaxes treatment of boat people and cuts funding of border security....hahahahahhaa.....

idiot....

I've hated the wax eater since he canned the Wolfdene Dam to appease greenies, and left SE Qld with a water crisis that will go on for decades..
 
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