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SirRumpole said:
Sorry, what you talking about ?

I only watch Fabian TV.

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Is that the same station that half owned by Murdoch, Newspoll consistently publishes an annual high value rating from the "ABC Appreciation Survey"?

I think in 2016 it was nearly 90% satisfaction and about 50% considered it highly valuable.

The ABC is always around 80% approval rating for national news coverage compared to about 40% for commercial ... you know ... the Andrew Bolts etc.
 

Yep, I only watch quality.
 

So what should we do ? Insist that the US keep to the agreement that Trump didn't sign, or just say "ok if that's how you feel, the deal is off".

If the latter , then no one can complain if we pull out of dumb deals that the US pulled on us, like our "Free" Trade agreement.
 
What I find interesting is the reaction to some on the left to this news.

1. Many are hoping the deal falls through, which shows they care little about the interests of those on Manus and Nauru, in spite of their constant bleating.

2. Many also are agreeing with Trump that it is a bad deal and admonishing Turnbull for entering into this "bad" agreement to begin with. But this is a non-sensical reaction. They want these people in Nauru and Manus to be settled in Australia instead. But Trump thinks it is a bad idea because they would be brought to the US instead. So if they are using Trump's rational, their suggestions are even worse than what Turnbull tried to achieve by entering the agreement in the first place.
 
CanOz said:
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7528-17

Fxcm banned from trading in the US!
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I was talking with a friend about this just today (having read minwa's post in one of the forex threads on this issue a day or two ago). My friend and I were in agreement that the penalty was far too lenient. 77 million in ill gotten gains and they only have to pay a paltry 7 million fine and accept deregistration! Why aren't those two FTSErs in gaol?
 
sptrawler said:
Jeez, that's a bit rough, coming from Tassie.lol
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No offence intended to anyone but to my understanding it's factually correct. For most of the time since Federation WA, SA, Tas and Qld have all benefited from a transfer of wealth via taxation from NSW and Vic due to the underlying basis which assumes a higher cost of service provision in states with a smaller population.

I do think that things ought to have been done differently with regard to the mining boom in WA and its effect on how those calculations are done but that doesn't change history.

On the other hand, if you measure contribution in terms of overseas exports then it's a very different picture with WA, Qld and Tas historically carrying NSW and Vic. SA roughly paid its own way on that measure. (Basing this on historic trends over several decades, I'm not sure of the latest figures).

In the event that someone finds a huge oil and gas field in Tas or something else brings about a major WA-style boom then I've no objection to the current formula staying in place such that the whole nation gets some benefit from it. Seems fair enough to me - give and take, that was the basis of Federation to start with.

Likewise I'm pretty sure that WA will be more than happy with the present arrangement when the ore runs out or if the price tanks in a big way.
 
I think the only sensible answer, is to tax per ton of ore removed, I said this years ago in the Gillard thread when super profits taxes were suggested.
As you said W.A will be happy with the current arrangement, when the ore runs out, which it will.
The problem is we are getting a pittance for it, while it is easy and cheap to extract, just another example of dumb politics.IMO
We will all suffer when we have nothing left to sell.
All our minerals should be bench marked against our competitors, and if we have a substantial advantage with extraction cost, we should add a tax, taking into consideration exchange rates and shipping.
At he moment, the companies are ripping it out and giving it away, because they still have an advantage over higher extraction cost Countries.
The problem is sooner or later, our easy to extract resources, will be gone.
Then the mining companies will go also, it will then be, suck it up princess.lol
 
The ABC is an echo chamber

Critical thinkers watch commercial

The facts behind the stats boys
 
Tink said:
In my view, they are out of touch with society
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As Tisme pointed out, the ABC consistently comes out on top of polls about reliability and trustworthiness of the media.

So maybe you just aren't living in the same society as the rest of us.
 
Man allegedly mistakes police helicopter for UFO

A Melbourne man who allegedly mistook a police helicopter for a UFO is now facing serious charges. Police said the 42-year-old Brighton man shone a laser at a police helicopter about 1:30am. He was arrested a short time later. He is expected to be charged on summons with conduct endangering persons and interference with crew or aircraft.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-09/man-allegedly-mistakes-police-helicopter-for-ufo/8254288
Well that was honest!
 
SirRumpole said:
As Tisme pointed out, the ABC consistently comes out on top of polls about reliability and trustworthiness of the media.

So maybe you just aren't living in the same society as the rest of us.
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I damn well hope not

I hate echo chambers
 
wayneL said:
The ABC is an echo chamber

Critical thinkers watch commercial

The facts behind the stats boys
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Critical thinkers don't watch TV in the first place.

So by default those polls must be of people who are... (I'll leave you to fill in the rest in case someone here gets offended).
 
Ves said:
Critical thinkers don't watch TV in the first place.

So by default those polls must be of people who are... (I'll leave you to fill in the rest in case someone here gets offended).
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BOOM!

Modern TV certainly leaches IQ, no argument from me there.
 
SirRumpole said:
As Tisme pointed out, the ABC consistently comes out on top of polls about reliability and trustworthiness of the media.

So maybe you just aren't living in the same society as the rest of us.
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And what's more I'm one of the critical pseudonyms who corresponds with them, calling them out for being fine purveyors of fake news on a regular basis. LOL That of course doesn't mean they aren't the lessor of the two (commercial/public) evils.

I really got a hiding from one american guest and I'm waiting for the vapid response from high and mighty american tart who works for a Liberal Party think tank who appeared on QANDA Monday..... the Jewish one who turned her back on the two Syrian boys.
 

Even though I think the ABC is the best of our news organisations I'm fairly pi$$ed with them too.

Months ago I wrote to them via their official website form and requesting an answer as to why they no longer have reader comments on their own line stories like The Guardian and SMH etc.

I'm yet to receive a reply. It may come in time, but for now it's a demonstration of the contempt with which they treat their readers. Or maybe we are all supposed to use Face thingy these days.
 
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