Are you willing to give up meat, fish and dairy?

[motorway]

It is feed lot animals that are the concern . pasture raised in the sunshine farmed animals are fine. Type 2 Diabetic Grain fed animals ? are not.


I wonder how many Kangaroo and Emu were running around in Australia in 1788 !
And what did we do ?

Motorway

Found this -->

'The numbers of kangaroos present in Australia at the time of first European settlement can be estimated on the basis on the number of introduced herbivores supported on unimproved pasture and browse. The population was probably of the order of one to two hundred million' . Auty J, (2005), 'Red Plague Grey Plague, Kangaroo Myths and Legends,' In 'Kangaroo Myths and Realities,' (Australian Wildlife Protection Council, Melbourne, Vic) p.62

And that land supported myriad numbers of other living organisms. From the smallest ( eg Bacteria ) to the largest.

200 mil ! How many Emus too I wonder.


Motorway

 

[LifeChoices]

Same here, gg

Last time I looked, a hectare was 10,000 square metres; I wouldn't call two chooks imprisoned on the space of 9 floor tiles "free range" either.

Free to roam, I think is the expression the marketing people use.

In my office in Collingwood where I happen to work as a marketer, I sit under fluorescent lights for 8 hours a day I am also free to roam.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Free to roam, I think is the expression the marketing people use.

In my office in Collingwood where I happen to work as a marketer, I sit under fluorescent lights for 8 hours a day I am also free to roam.

Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni!

gg

 

[Dougs Antiques]

I can honestly say that I have never considered giving up eating red meat, poultry, Dairy, seafood or eggs (and I cant fathom why anyone would).
I like eating vegtables aswell but eating solely vegies has never been an option and never will be although the prices of red meat is getting way out of controll.
I live in Adelaide but I frequent Townsville a couple of times a year (im at Townsville ATM) and my daughter has a small farmhouse property here.
This year she fed up MOO (MOO is/was the pig) and I have to say that MOO was mighty delicious on boxing day lunch (barbie).
I cant wait to see what suprise she has for us next year

 

[gav]

Seen this today, thought of this thread :

 

[pixel]

Free to roam, I think is the expression the marketing people use.

In my office in Collingwood where I happen to work as a marketer, I sit under fluorescent lights for 8 hours a day I am also free to roam.

yeah well - people in and around Collingwood have always had strange habits.
Some even fancy they're black-and-white birds.

But you are - presumably - exercising your own free will, which can't be said about chooks that're forced to sit under fluorescent lights 24/7 and squeeze ovoids out of their backsides.
If you accept such conditions, it's because you get paid - and paid quite well, I presume.
The big question is: Would you willingly put up with such treatment if you were only paid chickenfeed?

 

[Logique]

And besides, vegos fall asleep in the afternoons.

Eating meat led to smaller stomachs, bigger brains
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/04/eating-meat-led-to-smaller-stomachs-bigger-brains/
"But two seminal ideas stand out, said Lieberman. One is that in evolutionary terms, big human brains ”” with enormous energy requirements ”” are inversely proportional to gut size.

This idea ”” called the Expensive Tissue Hypothesis (ETH) in Aiello’s co-authored 1992 paper ”” argues that around 1.5 million years ago early humans began to eat more meat, a compact, high-energy source of calories that does not require a large intestinal system..

..It’s likely that meat eating 'made it possible for humans to evolve a larger brain size,' said Aiello.... Better food sources and the social changes they engendered accelerated our human ancestors toward civilization. 'Whatever was happening here,' said Aiello of the highest branch in the primate tree, 'Homo erectus got it right.'"