Interesting.
But I would be interested in the health effects of wild versus farmed animals.
Yes Logique, I am now aware of his background so I've been doing a little research on the subject.
I've found another couple of references.
http://reasonstogovegan.com/view-all-reasons/
http://www.peta.org/living/vegetarian-living/top-10-reasons-to-go-vegan-in-the-new-year.aspx
Although I did find this Peta poster showing a model wrapped in nothing more than lettuce leaves.
Not sure if this is appropriate marketing...
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Interesting.
But I would be interested in the health effects of wild versus farmed animals.
If there were "only" 1 billion of us then we just wouldn't have issues with over fishing, running out of oil, CO2 emissions and all the rest. It's the scale that causes the problems, not the activity per se.
Thanks Solly,
Most of these vegan jokers are like this model, with French implants in need of removing.
Give me an oyster starter, a steak, chips and greens, and an Irish Coffee to finish and I'm in heaven, followed if lucky by a lass without implants or Balmain basketweaver sensibilities.
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GG
I'm sure you must have had some pure (liquid) vegan evenings at the Ross River
But have a look at this 72 year old Vegan, FTW !
I think I will be convinced to give up meat in the near future. I don't have the same feelings towards seafood though.
What I'm saying is that I enjoy eating meat, but if I think hard enough about how we mistreat nature - it sickens me that I am a participant of this process. I couldn't watch this full film, and I doubt many of you could either - what I saw of it still haunts me - I made it to 10 minutes.
If I could be more in control over the process of the food I eat, I'm sure I'd feel much better about being a meat eater.
I would agree.
However some people also severely mistreat their veggies and fruit.
A neighbour of mine is quite cruel to his tomato plants.
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I think I will be convinced to give up meat in the near future. I don't have the same feelings towards seafood though.
What I'm saying is that I enjoy eating meat, but if I think hard enough about how we mistreat nature - it sickens me that I am a participant of this process. I couldn't watch this full film, and I doubt many of you could either - what I saw of it still haunts me - I made it to 10 minutes.
If I could be more in control over the process of the food I eat, I'm sure I'd feel much better about being a meat eater.
If I could be more in control over the process of the food I eat, I'm sure I'd feel much better about being a meat eater.
It is possible, just a lot more expensive and time consuming. Make sure you buy meat either direct from the farmer or from a boutique butcher who knows how it is killed. Ask the butcher which properties their meat comes from and then research them.
I think if more people went down this route, than the vegan route, we would see a bigger shift towards sustainability and less animal cruelty. Same as how free range eggs are now the vast majority sold.
That is all very well for rich people , with plenty of time on their hands.
The average young mum or pensioner is either too busy or too poor to be able to afford the luxury of even visiting a "boutique butcher".
And I somehow doubt whether all the eggs sold as free range are in fact from chooks allowed run about a yard.
The rich are the only ones I know in favour of paying more for "boutique food".
As PJ O'Rourke said " Eat the rich "
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You are correct about 'free range'.. in Aust there is no binding legal definition but there are voluntary standards. I have a source for this, I'll locate it on the sever and post later when I'm back in the suite.
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Here's an article from Fairfax re free range stocking definition.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/a...over-freerange-definition-20110914-1k9s9.html
Here are links from Egg Corp re definitions & vision of density stocking.
http://www.aecl.org/system/attachme...finitions 220711 - for website.pdf?1316405656
http://youtu.be/OpLCt5KHv7M
Looks a lot less crowded than the workers peak hour Bombay Express from Robina to Central !
The Australian Egg Corporation, which represents most egg farmers, this week sent new draft standards to producers, which would allow a free-range egg farm to run as many as 20,000 chickens per hectare.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/a...-definition-20110914-1k9s9.html#ixzz1i6U3YcOV
I have a 42 acre block with 3 to 5 steers, own vegie garden and chooks.
My animals are cared and loved, killed on site and provide my family with an healthy diet of red meat organic , not grain fed.
If you are an omnivore would now consider a change to your eating habits ?
Same here, ggThanks mate, 20,000 hens per hectare doesn't fit with my idea of free range.
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