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Anyone use ProRealTime?

It depends really, the product is GREAT, no question about it.

There is an option to get indicators written for you. You have to wait up to 3 weeks for the result. I have had issues where a number I have requested have been ignored and I have got no reply what so ever. That is REALLY frustrating. Iwould be happy to pay to have the indicators written. I have done that for Metastock before but there is no option with ProRealTime for this.

The issue I find is that there is no user forum or user community like you have with Metastock or Amibroker. Hvaing said that the guys at ProRealTime have alot of self help videos so that is good as well.

Steve
 
It depends really, the product is GREAT, no question about it.

There is an option to get indicators written for you. You have to wait up to 3 weeks for the result. I have had issues where a number I have requested have been ignored and I have got no reply what so ever. That is REALLY frustrating. Iwould be happy to pay to have the indicators written. I have done that for Metastock before but there is no option with ProRealTime for this.

The issue I find is that there is no user forum or user community like you have with Metastock or Amibroker. Hvaing said that the guys at ProRealTime have alot of self help videos so that is good as well.

Steve


Thanks for the feedback.

So far so good - I've developed my indicators and screening systems. There are some limitations with the screener program. The list limit of 50 and screener output of 30 is annoying. I have developed an ASX400 list breaking it up into 10 sectors to get around this. There are occasional crashes and some issues with saving sceeners but I've got around these. Its good that its data is error free and complete !!!!

Cheers,
 
Boy this is starting to taste a lot like that crap that comes in a tin made from pig lips. :(
 
IIB = avoidance of 'Ignorance is Bliss'
I ask the questions to avoid being blissful in my ignorance.
Hopefully others may learn something as well.
Cheers,
 
I ask the questions to avoid being blissful in my ignorance.

And that's my point. I think your first post was about producing the next great indicator for our modern times, for markets that have evolved and changed due to the speed of computers etc etc. :rolleyes:

Then you post about finding software that is cheap or less than most real traders spend on brokerage in a day.

And now you are telling us that you are just trying to avoid being blissful in your ignorance.

What is it?
1. Your a newbie who hasn't traded?
2. A struggling trader that can't turn a $ and can't afford the most basic tools of the trade?
3. Someone who is capable of developing the next great indicator for our times but doesn't actually trade and does it as a hobby?

Or spamming us?
 
None of the above!

4. A swing trader for 3 years that has become frustrated with the indicators/systems that are available, and wants to work at the coal-face with modern indicators and tools that are closer to what is really happening.

Simple tools are better for this as they are easier to understand and modify. The expensive software tools are bloated with features and are designed to hide the details, but is it the details and understanding of signals at the coal-face that is important. I am a website and software developer and so I understand these issues. My cupboard is full of software packages. Sure this strategy will not appeal to most, but I am simply seeking information to improve my individual approach to finding PAL (custom indicators, screeners and systems).

I have incorporated my new indicator into the packages I have mentioned, and developed custom screeners, etc. and I am assessing and refining the results. I am seeking help to refine the approach, and ensure I am using the best simple tools for the job. I downloaded Amibroker and trialed it for a month, but it doesn't suit my approach (wash my mouth out with salt and lemon).

I am simply seeking help, feedback and advice from those with more experience for my journey. Isn’t this what the forum is about ? Why so abusive? This is getting too personal and irrelevant, so lets cease.

Cheers and Best Wishes
 
Having used both, I'm interested in hearing what you think you are going to get out of PRT that you can't get from ami:confused:
 
I downloaded Amibroker and trialed it for a month, but it doesn't suit my approach (wash my mouth out with salt and lemon).

How can you have trialled it for a month when apparently this morning you were only about to download it?

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15105
Rusty why not just use amibroker?
It is reasonably cheap and will do everything you want. You can also use free EOD data if you don't want to pay for data.

I'll have a look at it but its expensive, especially as the free EOD data is not corrected - ProRealTime data appears to be error free.

Thanks for your comments - just trying to get advice on what software will meet my requirements with minimum cost. I'll download a trial and check it out.

Cheers,

If you have been trading for three years and are still trying to rely on free data, then I wonder if you are serious about progressing.

I am not really an Amibroker supporter but it is not expensive and it will allow you to create and test custom indicators (if you have the nous to write the code from scratch). Until you are prepared to pay for your tools and/or data, all you will get are limited functionalities or toys.

I wonder along with Prof.Frink what you think ami can't do, that some free website can. A lot of your comments just don't gel with my experience with various decent software packages.

But then maybe TH is on the right track here....:confused:
 
Having used both, I'm interested in hearing what you think you are going to get out of PRT that you can't get from ami:confused:

Simpler programming + remote access ( I travel ), but still trying various optons including another look at ami.

I like trademan.com and hoping to get the bugs removed from the screener. Simple programing and simple progress through a list, unlimited lists and screener outputs, overlays on own scale - great for reserach and development.

Cheers,
 
Thanks for the feedback.

So far so good - I've developed my indicators and screening systems. There are some limitations with the screener program. The list limit of 50 and screener output of 30 is annoying. I have developed an ASX400 list breaking it up into 10 sectors to get around this. There are occasional crashes and some issues with saving sceeners but I've got around these. Its good that its data is error free and complete !!!!

Cheers,

I quite like the Proscreener. There are certain functions I miss like the BarsSince that Metastock has. They have a suggestion form that I have filled in about this (twice). It is a real pain, you make a suggestion and get absolutely no response from them. I think their support is a little off, I have asked questions before and they take a week to get back to you. I think that a week is shocking service but it has been like it for a year or so ( as far as I can gather from other posts I have seen).

I subscribe to their forex service, and am not sure what the stock service is like.

Steve
 
I agree with your comments about the lack of a BarsSince() function as in Metastock. There are some work-arounds for this, but I am primarily interested in the last 3-5 days and so this is not really an issue for what I want to do with my screener.

Cheers,
 
I used Amibroker for 12 months with EOD data from Premium Data (great service).

I went to ProRealTime because getting live data was a pain on Amibroker and I thought thought the real time version of Metastock was a crazy price.

The other product I liked the look of and also liked the demos of was Trade Navigator.

ProRealtime is my current preference because it is browser based. ProRealtimes programming language is much better than Metastocks.

Oh well, this is just my opinion.
 
I agree with your comments about the lack of a BarsSince() function as in Metastock. There are some work-arounds for this, but I am primarily interested in the last 3-5 days and so this is not really an issue for what I want to do with my screener.

Cheers,

Having said that I just use a loop to achieve the same thing. I just find it a pain using a FOR loop when I should be able to use a simple function.

Like I said earlier, I do subscribe to the forex service but just think ProRealTimes customer service could be alot better. I undedstand they are a small company but so is Amibroker. With Amibroker I ALWAYS got a responses to any question within 24 hours.

If you request an indicator from ProRealTime you get a response half the time. The other time you just get ignored, that is just frustrating and when I complained to Customer Support their comment was that they have no visibility of the requests and that I should resend them after 3 weeks.

I understand that they are busy, so why not have a service that allows you to pay to have the indicators written. I paid to get some written for Metastock a couple of years ago. Obviously not be Equis/Reuters but my point is I dont want everything for free, I have paid in the past and will pay again if the service was available.

Steve
 
Re: ProRealTime

Not an expert, have used it for a short period and also don't live in Sydney.

What area do you need help with?
 
Re: ProRealTime

Not an expert, have used it for a short period and also don't live in Sydney.

What area do you need help with?

Firstly I often seem to lose the indicators that I place on the charts. For instance this morning when I opened my first few charts the indicators were there and then suddenly they disappeared. Once I put indicators on a chart do I save the template(which is what I have been doing) - this doesn't seem to make a difference though?
 
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