So_Cynical
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Australian Leaders Fund (ALF) is the new name of Wilson Leaders (WLS). Previous discussion on WLS can be found here: https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1702
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ALF is a LIC that operates a little differently from the norm...while they come across as value type stock pickers they also short stocks using a reverse value stock picking criteria probably much better explained by them.
http://www.australianleaders.com.au/aboutalf/investment-process.aspx
Company Summary:
- Market Cap: 76 mill.
- 52-wk High: 1.31
- 52-wk Low: 1.015
- First listed: Feb 04
- Gross portfolio increased 28.5% in the 12 months to June 2011
- 2011 After Tax profit of 14.1 mill up 10.7% year on year
- Has Paid 8 consecutive half year FF dividends.
- Gross Dividend yield 12%
- The fund incurs a management fee of 1% of gross assets.
- A 20% fee is applicable if the fund outperforms the All Ords Accumulation Index.
Everything looked OK until the last bullet point! That is a very expensive performance fee. I hope it is only on absolute performance (e.g. if XAOAI loses 15% and ALF loses only 10%, do they still get paid 20% performance fee?)
And what's up with the company doing a SPP AND a share buyback at the same time? They either need more cash or they have too much cash. Are they just arbitraging their own share?
And they were short Minara at end of July... I hope they covered before the takeover.
Yeah im with ya...they did have some bad shorts and bad longs...and the SPP and buyback at the same time seems a little weird to me too, and they do a SPP every year, at the same time of year. :dunno: im just a punter and not a highly paid investment professional like these guys.
ALF release quarterly reports to keep investors up to date with how the fund is travelling etc, and as is common now with fund managers they like to sprinkle in a little commentary on how they think the World and Australia is doing, the possible ramifications and opportunities of that analysis and their investment rationale for 4 or 5 of the funds investments.
The latest quarterly report (18 pages) is quite an interesting read...stocks covered are TLS DUE HDF QRN and TCL
http://www.australianleaders.com.au...ns/201204 ALF Quarterly Report April 2012.pdf
(29th-August-2011)
So i opened a new position in ALF today @ 1.19 ~ dividend to come (12% Gross factored forward) and with a bit of a rally its not to hard to see a small profitable exit appearing somewhere down the road.
Interesting read SC, and good work on the profitable outcome. Why the second purchase? Looks a little odd...
Just found this as yet another neglected high yielding stock that should be mentioned more. Big div coming up, I'm thinking of getting in. Anything I should be aware of?
It is trading at a decent premium to NTA, why would anyone pay over book for this? You could easily assemble your own portfolio with the same holdings without management fees and at value, not above.
because they know how to make money beyond the level of their assets (NTA)It is trading at a decent premium to NTA, why would anyone pay over book for this?
- you don't know all the portfolio , it changes often and they SHORT as well as go long - you need staff, time and experience I would suggest to do all that well - ceratinly out of my leagueYou could easily assemble your own portfolio with the same holdings without management fees and at value, not above.
Just found this as yet another neglected high yielding stock that should be mentioned more. Big div coming up, I'm thinking of getting in. Anything I should be aware of?
SC, are you still holding some of ALF?
Following an article in the Weekend Australian on LICs I've had a look at a few of them. ALF has a pretty attractive grossed up yield.
SC, are you still holding some of ALF?
Following an article in the Weekend Australian on LICs I've had a look at a few of them. ALF has a pretty attractive grossed up yield.
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