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banco said:
You said: "I wasn't aware of the quotes noco has supplied, and am disappointed to know that". The quotes noco highlighted dealt with issues relating to islam.
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banco said:
I don't think it's that damning that he's reticent to talk about the worst aspects of his religion with outsiders.
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OK. I thought the quotes from noco's post were somewhat more extreme than him being 'reticent to talk about the worst aspects of his religion' eg

Aly also assured 3AW the then Mufti of Australia, Sheik Taj el-Din el-Hilali, was not a worry even though he’d praised suicide bombers as “heroes” and called the September 11 attacks “God’s work against oppressors”.
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Aly also assured 3AW the then Mufti of Australia, Sheik Taj el-Din el-Hilali, was not a worry even though he’d praised suicide bombers as “heroes” and called the September 11 attacks “God’s work against oppressors”.
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People like Hilali who make public comments and draw attention to themselves are probably less of a worry than the ones keeping a low profile and flying under the radar of the authorities.
 
Islamists like Monis, Walleed, Sheik Taj el-Din el-Hilali, etc, who make public comments and draw attention to themselves are not a worry according to SR.
 
Calliope said:
Islamists like Monis, Walleed, Sheik Taj el-Din el-Hilali, etc, who make public comments and draw attention to themselves are not a worry according to SR.
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Can't you tell the difference between less of a worry and no worry ?
 

Now come on, be fair.....you know why those Palestinians were killed that is if was 2000....They provoked the Israelis with their thousands of rockets attack.....how many Israelis were killed?.......Hamas planted their rockets near hospitals and schools...what would you expect?

I think you are a bit one sided without giving the whole truth.
 
Are you saying,Noco,that if my neighbour indulges in criminal activity that the rest of the people in the area should receive collective punishment?
Do you rely on Rupert Murdoch for your sense of morality and decency?
 

I only asked if Bolt offered broader context.... And I'm still interested to know.

On The Israeli assault on Gaza the Gazians died 20-1 to the Jews. From memory one Israeli has been killed by a rocket in the last couple of years. The following link talks to 'The Rules Of WAR' proportionality, and Israelis Iron Dome that makes rocket attacks ineffectual. Plus gives a Broader context.

https://theconversation.com/israels...o-sense-and-cannot-secure-a-just-future-29631

And for more context;

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/rebuilding-gaza-needs-freedom-and-normality-not-just-aid/


or those that choose can remain Bolted to just one side.
 

Are the Israelis still bombing the Gaza strip?

When they did bomb the Gaza strip what was their reason for doing so?

Has Hamas stopped sending rockets into Israel?

After the Arabs had their backsides kicked in the 6 day war in 1967 ( and I might add they are still licking their wounds), why do you think Israel continued to occupy the West Bank and the Golan Heights?

Was it the Arabs intention then and still is today to wipe Israel off the map?

Israel is surrounded by Arab states and they are always in a tenuous situation of being attacked and if they are attacked, don't they have the right to defend themselves?...If Hamas continues to provoke Israel, I have no sympathy for Hamas, however I do have sympathy for the citizens of Palestine who are the ones who have to suffer from an extremist group like Hamas...I believe Palestine was once a Christian state until it was over run by Islam...The majority of Palestinians people want to live in peace but they are denied peace be the terrorist organization of Hamas.

The ratio of 1 : 20 loss of life has nothing to do with it. ..We all know as well as your good self, Hamas took advantage of seeking sympathy from the rest of the world by the media attention making the Israelis the bad ones for the loss of life including women and children..Hamas always placed their rocket launchers near hospitals and schools so when Israel attempted to knock out those rocket positions their was some civilians killed.... Hamas could not care less if women and children were the victims....Hams flourished in the media attention....To the best of my knowledge, Israel dropped leaflets and did their best to warn civilians that a bombing raid was imminent.

Fair go!!!!!
 
SirRumpole said:
Very few. The Israelis have a missile defence system called Iron Dome that protects them against the majority of missiles that Hammas launches.
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That is because the Israelis are smarter than those dumb Arabs and good on them.

You go tell the Arabs to leave the Israelis alone and then no one gets hurt in the cross fire.
 
chiff said:
Are you saying,Noco,that if my neighbour indulges in criminal activity that the rest of the people in the area should receive collective punishment?
Do you rely on Rupert Murdoch for your sense of morality and decency?
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I refer you to my posts # 1690 and 1691.

Who are the criminals and who are the victims?
 
noco said:
Are the Israelis still bombing the Gaza strip?

When they did bomb the Gaza strip what was their reason for doing so?
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Now that's the question, the real answer is political, anything Hamas does or did has next to nothing to do with it.
 
noco said:
That is because the Israelis are smarter than those dumb Arabs and good on them.

You go tell the Arabs to leave the Israelis alone and then no one gets hurt in the cross fire.
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I'm not going to tell anyone anything, apart from you who made a statement without doing any research.

Just trying to improve your education.

 
noco said:
That is because the Israelis are smarter than those dumb Arabs and good on them.

You go tell the Arabs to leave the Israelis alone and then no one gets hurt in the cross fire.
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For you ,my dear Noco,the killing of civilians is part of a remote football game.The Nazis took dealt collective punishment on unrelated civilians when their interests were threatened.
Once again ,do you need Rupert Murdoch to guide your thoughts on morality and humanity.Evidence on this forum suggests that you do.
 
SirRumpole said:
I'm not going to tell anyone anything, apart from you who made a statement without doing any research.

Just trying to improve your education.

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Rumpy, you are talking in riddles again....what research are you talking about or are you baffled for an answer knowing full well what I have stated is what really happened?
 

Cliff, you also seems to be off the track and making some audacious comment unrelated to what I was commenting on....What has the Nazis or Rupert Murdock got to do with guiding my morality and humanity.

Please stop romancing with yourself...you also don't have the answer, so stop making these outlandish statements in order to discredit my character......That is a cheap way of you doing things in your mind.
 
noco said:
Rumpy, you are talking in riddles again....what research are you talking about or are you baffled for an answer knowing full well what I have stated is what really happened?
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You seemed to be insinuating that a lot of Israelis were killed by Palestinian rockets, when in fact that is not the case.

That's the lack of research I was referring to.
 
SirRumpole said:
You seemed to be insinuating that a lot of Israelis were killed by Palestinian rockets, when in fact that is not the case.

That's the lack of research I was referring to.
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I am well aware of all that Rumpy...I am well aware there were a lot more Palestinians killed thanks to Hamas and I am not denying it so what is your point?

I don't need to do any research....I know full well what happened.

I am sure the majority of Palestinians do not have a lot of time for Hamas who are a terrorist organization and who could not give a hoot about the Palestinians. I am sure you know it but won't admit it.

May I ask why you are pro Hamas and anti Israel?
 
noco said:
May I ask why you are pro Hamas and anti Israel?
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Faults on both sides noco, but the Israelis have the might of the US on their side, with all the money and arms sent by Jews in the US to Israel, so the poor Palestinians don't have much comeback against that sort of strength.

What else can they do but fire a few rockets every now and then ? It never achieves anything but I suppose they are justifying themselves to their supporters.

Meanwhile Israel keeps expanding their borders and pushing the Palestinians out. No one seems to want much to do with them, and so people keep getting thrown out of their houses onto the streets.
 
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