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So_Cynical said:
A 50000 dollar per baby cap on paid parental leave so rich women can be paid to have baby's with 5.5 billion in funding while the ABC loses 50 million per year = bizarre.
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Nothing to do with a small 5% cut in ABC funding, but of course the PPL scheme is ridiculous. I don't know anyone who has said otherwise, barring Mr Abbott himself.

We have, however, heard nothing about this for some time, so hopefully it will be permitted to fade tactfully into oblivion.

FWIW I'm completely against any sort of baby making subsidy, including IVF, being funded by the taxpayer.
 

So what do you think of the female politicians and public servants receiving full pay for 6 months to have a bay at tax payers expense?.....I am sure that was introduced by a Labor government.
 
It should be quite obvious what I think from my previous post, noco. Completely opposed to it.
 
So_Cynical said:
A 50000 dollar per baby cap on paid parental leave so rich women can be paid to have baby's with 5.5 billion in funding while the ABC loses 50 million per year = bizarre.
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Yeah, that's pretty expensive for a baby cap. A dutch cap (diaphragm) is a much cheaper baby cap.
 
News Alert :- ABC 24 will now be known as ABC 12 due to funding restrictions.
 

Agree, the ABC has become a joke and a waste of taxpayers money.

They haven't helped the Victorian election either, with their bias.

Sell it off, slice and dice, we shouldn't have to pay for it.
 
Tink said:
Agree, the ABC has become a joke and a waste of taxpayers money.

They haven't helped the Victorian election either, with their bias.

Sell it off, slice and dice, we shouldn't have to pay for it.
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Totally disagree.

We need an alternative independent voice to the malicious megalomaniac Murdoch and his cronies in the commercial media.

The ABC provides a balance that most people trust.

I find it interesting how many people in this forum quote ABC news items or articles.

There is bias is virtually every organisation. If the ABC is biased slightly to the left of the other three commercial tv stations, Murdoch's newspapers, Sky TV and the shock jocks, then that provides an overall balance in the media sector.
 
Tink said:
Agree, the ABC has become a joke and a waste of taxpayers money.

They haven't helped the Victorian election either, with their bias.

Sell it off, slice and dice, we shouldn't have to pay for it.
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It will be interesting to see the outcome of the next Federal election.

Fairfax and the ABC have dedicated a lot of their resources, trying to discredit Abbott and the coalition.
If the coalition win the election comfortably, it will indicate the SMH etc, have allienated a huge sector of their potential customer base.
The shareholders will have every right to be upset.

With regard the ABC, years ago they were the only broadcaster, that people in country areas could recieve.
With the advent of satelite t.v, that is no longer the case.

Therefore it is now more important than ever, that they remain neutral, all taxpayers are paying for the service.
Unlike Murdoch papers, if they wish to alienate a sector of market, that is their business, as with Fairfax.

If the ABC don't supply unbiased reporting, it will only be a matter of time before they are privatised or their spectrum sold off.IMO
 
I'm still wanting to see the details of the bias the ABC supposedly has. Anyone here with any proof, apart from quoting Andrew Bolt's obsequious LNP propaganda?

I'm guessing Leigh Sales asking Malcolm last night why Abbott promised no cuts and the reverse is true, is some kind of ABC Fabian, pinko, commo conspiracy .... as if lies are acceptable when mouthed by the LNP?
 
Tisme said:
I'm still wanting to see the details of the bias the ABC supposedly has.?
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I think it's a case that the ABC dares to cover issues that are not to the liking of the Right, but are real issues nevertheless.

Climate change, renewable energy, social concerns are not issues that the Right spends much time thinking about, being more concerned with the contents of their wallets, and when they are laid in front of them, they get frightened because they are things that their inelastic conservative brains cannot understand. The simplest thing to do in that case is to shout BIAS., instead of engaging in debate,

Some people need to understand that covering issues is not the same as expressing an opinion on them.
 

If you read my post, I never said they were biased.

Just pointed out that their relevance has deminished, and if they are percieved to be biased, it is only a matter of time before they will go.
 
Calliope said:
None so blind as those who will not see. You are obviously blinkered. You should watch The Insiders and Q&A.
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True I don't go looking for bias and I'm not fussed at any particular party, but if you say the Insiders is biased I'm wondering why and how? Sometimes facts, like the end score of a footy match, can be very unsettling when they are not complimentary to your team.

I always considered Tony Jones to be anti Labor, but skewing his interviews to be seen to be neutral. Apparently everyone else knows he is a rabid Labor man because they know how he votes?
 
sptrawler said:
If you read my post, I never said they were biased.

Just pointed out that their relevance has deminished, and if they are percieved to be biased, it is only a matter of time before they will go.
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I was just picking up on the vibe and generalising. There are certainly those here who have an axe to grind with the ABC.

I remember the ABC way back when much of the broadcast was an looping film of a car driving through the backstreets of some place in Italy or similar.

I hate that I can't watch anything interesting when Rage is dominating the weekend morning slot. Given the choice of listening to light weights on the "weekend breakfast" editions at 7&9, the Shark navigators, the Nitribullets, the DR Ho's, etc on the subordinate stations, I think there is a clear evidence more money should be ploughed into the ABC to start rebroadcasting the car in the backstreets of Naples.
 

Actually, for your information, I am a subscriber.
 
Sigh. Once again, the taxpayer funds the ABC. Its charter requires it to present a non-partisan view.
Murdoch and Fairfax are not taxpayer funded. Therefore they can print whatever they like and the market will determine their success or failure.

In all regional Australia, there is little alternative to the ABC, especially if, like me, you prefer radio to TV.
Commercial radio is parochial, full of screaming, amateurish commercials, and just intolerable. So no choice in reality.

Tisme said:
I'm still wanting to see the details of the bias the ABC supposedly has. Anyone here with any proof, apart from quoting Andrew Bolt's obsequious LNP propaganda?
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Please do not assume that anyone making a criticism of the ABC is necessarily a fan of Mr Bolt. Mercifully these days, he no longer appears on "Insiders" so to be exposed to his views one must purposely watch his woeful TV program or read his printed word. Both are entirely avoidable.

I'm guessing Leigh Sales asking Malcolm last night why Abbott promised no cuts and the reverse is true, is some kind of ABC Fabian, pinko, commo conspiracy .... as if lies are acceptable when mouthed by the LNP?
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I have no idea why you would make such a guess. She asked a perfectly legitimate question and was equally legitimate in her determination to get an answer. Mr Turnbull was clearly less than comfortable which is his problem, not hers. There was nothing prejudiced or unfair in her interview imo, and indeed I've rarely concluded that she is anything other than even handed.

I find her very good at her job, much better than Kerry O'Brien. She is polite but persistent. Doesn't need to be aggressive or rude to make her point.

Tony Jones, on the other hand, just cuts people off on Q & A when they are trying to make a point which doesn't align with his own philosophy. Also, the stated proportions of attendees are rubbish. Often they will say there is 45%/55% conservative audience, but then the guffaws and/or applause for the Left leaning remarks demonstrate this to be patently untrue. Not that one can blame the producers too much for this: presumably people are asked to state their political leaning and anyone can lie about it.

Often the panel is stacked with Left leaning participants.

On Radio, the current affairs programs, RN Breakfast, The World Today, and PM, are imo all fairly objective in terms of the actual content of the coverage. Any bias there is more in excessive covering of something attractive to the Left. eg all these weeks after Whitlam's death, Radio National is still running docos about Gough's first trip to China etc. Overkill for anyone who is not passionately devoted to Mr Whitlam.

I might be quite wrong, but I anticipate the results of any cuts to the ABC's budget will only push them even further to the Left as they take advantage of their influential access to the electorate to air their grievances against the government.
 
Julia said:
Sigh. Once again, the taxpayer funds the ABC. Its charter requires it to present a non-partisan view.
Murdoch and Fairfax are not taxpayer funded. Therefore they can print whatever they like and the market will determine their success or failure.
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Sigh again. I don't believe the ABC as an organisation does show political bias.

A number of reviews by independent people including Kerry Packers old henchman Gerald Stone found little evidence of bias. Just because they sometimes say things you don't like, is no grounds for claiming bias.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...over-bias-claims/story-e6frg996-1226852398864
 
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