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A2B - A2B Australia

The market is going bearish.
Just wait till it turns. You are more likely to get a better price later.
 
I got some more today

combination of regulation uncertainty and the lost of 2 bus routes

those 2 bus routes CAB doesn't earn much from them the hillbus route is the money making machine.
so it could be a blessing in disguised because they can recovered capital on those 2 routes and deploy
to other part of the business for better return.

Regulation uncertainty but current price I reckon more than factor in for any negative effect if any...

Remember CCV regulation uncertainty, people scream CCV could lose up 50% of the profit etc..etc..
look where CCV now, top of the world and market darling...
 
The trend is still down for the shorter term that is for sure. How many fundies are still buying as the price goes lower and lower??

Will $4 act as technical support level?

So many questions, so many different answers
 
The trend is still down for the shorter term that is for sure. How many fundies are still buying as the price goes lower and lower??

Will $4 act as technical support level?

So many questions, so many different answers

The trend is down for the longer term too, it has lost around $10 since June 2007.
I am looking at a potential short term trade if it turns back up and finds support above 4.27, if that doesn't happen then the next target is 3.75. There are a few gaps on the last leg down and the market has a tendency to go back and overlap the gaps.
To get to 3.75 it also has to pass a significant level (low) on the weekly chart of 3.95 (support ?).

Its always fun watching how stocks behave at certain levels (TGA being another recently discussed example of predictable behaviour at various points).

Thats my worth, daily chart below (click to expand).
 

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Something isn't right with these guys from 3:45pm. It was bouncing nicely today and then lost 8% in the last 15 minutes.

What's the news? Taxi inquiry out?
 
To get to 3.75 it also has to pass a significant level (low) on the weekly chart of 3.95 (support ?).

Massive offload at the closing auction, took the 3.95 out easily.

It's now back at Nov 2004 prices !
 
Massive offload at the closing auction, took the 3.95 out easily.

It's now back at Nov 2004 prices !

Nearly 600k worth of shares dumped in closing auction. Lets hope someone is just panicking and its not a case of someone knowing more than the market
 
You could hope it was the same guy who was playing RIO today at 12:25:grenade:
 
You could hope it was the same guy who was playing RIO today at 12:25:grenade:

I notice those particular trades on RIO had a code of EQ - Commsec tells me that this stands for Equity Combo but I can't find what that actually means. Would appreciate an explanation, thanks.
Apologies for taking thread off topic
 
Couldn't help myself. I bought a few thousand shares at 3.64. What is not to like about a 9.6% fully franked dividend of a company with good financials. Looking at the technicals, breaking the $4 looks bad, yet I wont be surprised to see a large reversal sometime soon.

As the company release basically stated nothing materially wrong, it would be a very bad look for directors to announce something bad next week, hence downside should be limited.
 
Question: The RBA has said that taxi payments are not surcharges because the merchant (Cabcharge) is actually providing the payment system as a service. Does that mean CAB falls into state government legislation because it now falls outside the remit of the RBA? So the issues around its surcharging now become a prime target for the Fels inquiry. This would mean the SP fall is actually because the RBA has said CAB's business is outside the payment system.
 

Footnote 2


So it reads to me that taxis should also falls under the "reasonable cost of acceptance" umbrella, regardless of how the charge is broken down between surcharge and other costs.
 
Footnote 2

So it reads to me that taxis should also falls under the "reasonable cost of acceptance" umbrella, regardless of how the charge is broken down between surcharge and other costs.

Yeah I read footnote 2, which prompted my question. It seems almost as though the RBA is washing its hands of the issue and saying wait for the Victorians to say something. Given the tone of Fels in attacking the industry, I can't imagine a finding that is favourable to CAB's business.

The next bit is what happens if Victoria mandates a price-cap of 5%. CAB won't look as cheap then even at these levels. I could easily see NSW following, they seem to just be waiting for Victoria.
 
The next bit is what happens if Victoria mandates a price-cap of 5%. CAB won't look as cheap then even at these levels. I could easily see NSW following, they seem to just be waiting for Victoria.
Have you done any work on earnings models if the 5% cap comes in? I haven't had a look in a while, but I remember calculating about 25% earnings loss.

Which, means it is still on a P/E of 10. That isn't bad for a quality business.
 

Same load up a bit more today.
Market always over-react to negative news but we can only find out in hind insight.

but you cant get good price for stock if there are a lot of buyer
 
Have you done any work on earnings models if the 5% cap comes in? I haven't had a look in a while, but I remember calculating about 25% earnings loss.

Which, means it is still on a P/E of 10. That isn't bad for a quality business.

I haven't, sorry. To be honest, it's all so up in the air at the moment I don't know how to create a valuation that is anything more than speculative. FWIW, Macquarie is forecasting a 30% decline in EPS if the cap is put to 5%, which is about what you are saying, although they added the caveat that they don't really know what's going on. Also, they think that CAB will be captured by the RBA payments system.


Obviously make of the analyst report what you want. I don't take them as gospel but they are good for reference and to add a bit of colour to the discussion. I can PM you the full report if you want.
 
Have you done any work on earnings models if the 5% cap comes in? I haven't had a look in a while, but I remember calculating about 25% earnings loss.

Which, means it is still on a P/E of 10. That isn't bad for a quality business.

P.46 of last accounts... Taxi service fee income = $89.55m.

So if you half that, I think it's more like 25% (~$40m) revenue loss. How much falls straight to the bottom line? I don't see much reduction in associated costs. Considering the NPAT was ~$60m, the earnings impact is massive if it comes to bear.
 
Is the whole $90 mil included, though? How broad is taxi service fee income?

Goldmach Sachs have a report, that someone posted snippets from on HotCopper, suggesting that the EPS change is more likely to be closer to 13% to 21% in 2014/2015.

So many conflicting views out there on what is concluded.

ROE do you have anything to add to this? Happy to do PM if you don't want it made public for whatever reason.
 
So many conflicting views out there on what is concluded.

From MBL


I'm happy to sit and wait, hopefully for you guys holding this ends up being more like MMS and it all blows over.
 
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