Abbott must be realising now that the three independents are in fact closet Labor/Green stooges.
If he is smart he will walk away from the table now. Any chance of reaching the magic number of 76 lies only with Gillard.
NICK GREINER, FORMER LIBERAL NSW PREMIER: I hate to sound trite but I think it was trust. I mean, in my case originally Tony Windsor, in fact, had the balance of power.
I saw the show last night, and Steve Bracks mentioned that when he formed a minority government in his first term it took over a month for a government to be formedAccording to the 7.30 report last night Tony Windsor has done this before:
Hi Ghoti, perhaps more just holding both sides to account, or at least ideally that's how it should be, as Mofra suggests. I guess we all interpret Kerry O'Brien's interviews through the filter of our own biases, however much we - like O'Brien - strive for objectivity.FWIW, I agree with Berg that the paper isn't very exciting and that shows such as 7.30 Report tend to be more anti-government than anything.
Yep, I've been thinking about this a bit more, and acknowledge that personally I couldn't classify myself as right or left, but rather a bit of each on various subjects. I think it would be hard, though, to stop people wanting to classify e.g. politicians.The right - left thing just strikes me as hopelessly inadequate to cover the range of issues and groupings that we have to deal with. It made a sort of sense when the world could be divided more or less meaningfully into Soviet or US led and the dominant problems of governments seemed to be economic and political, but it's no help to understanding, for example, independent members of parliament elected from rural Australia in 2010. Right or left, Coles or Woolworths, Red or Blue... none of them are prepared to accept a binary view of the parliament, let alone their electorates. Australian politics clearly needs at least three poles because we've nearly always had at least 3 blocs in the Senate and sometimes more.
Rave away, I'm also enjoying it. I don't remember a time since I've been living in Australia that the twists and turns of politics have been so fascinating.Sorry to rave on. I'm really enjoying the nitty-gritty of this election, and I'm really delighted that the electors have given the backrooms of the major parties such a clobbering. The nation is much more complicated and interesting than they've allowed us to be, and it will be a very good thing if the Parliament reflects that.
Agree with your post ghotib, but specifrically the two points raised here. For all the claims of bias, Kerry O'Brien tends to give both sides of politics a grilling when they appear on the 7:30 report which is absolutely the way it should be - someone needs to scrutinise the substance of government or opposition policy, and the mainstream media tend to focus their scrutiny on soundbites or the spin, not the substance.
Right-left is an interesting case in point - Katter is socially right wing, but his economic leanings are protectionist and I'd argue very left (FWIW I identify more to the opposite in both cases).
...Family First Senator Fielding has also thrown a spanner in the works, threatening the ALP to block passage of bills through the senate until he loses his senate seat (if the ALP can form a government).
Yesterday Mr Abbott said he would not submit his policies to Treasury for costing until a police investigation into a departmental leak was finalised.
But an AFP spokeswoman said there was no investigation and that police were ''still assessing'' the Coalition's complaint.
"Abbott claims 'win' after costings backdown"
WTF oh that's right phony Tony
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/27/2995346.htm
"What this means is that briefing of the independents by Treasury can now go ahead without the risk of political interference and that was a very, very real risk."
Mr Abbott said he was concerned about where the information might end up, but he was now satisfied safeguards were in place.
AFP have said there is no investigation
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-elect...-like-gillard-20100826-13uam.html?autostart=1
"But an AFP spokeswoman said there was no investigation and that police were ''still assessing'' the Coalition's complaint.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has claimed a "significant win" for the Coalition after he reached agreement with Labor on the way the three independent MPs will be briefed about the policy costings of both sides....
and
...The Coalition will be able to have discussions with Treasury before the costing of its promises are calculated.
"No information from that full briefing of Treasury by the coalition will be available to the government," Mr Abbott told reporters in Sydney today. "The Coalition has had a significant win on the briefings process."
Ther is little doubt that Rob Oakeshott is a Labor stooge. Since he entered Parliament in a bi-election in 2008 he has voted with the Coalition only 19 times on 84 items of legislation.
Jeez, La Gill is desperate, she's sacheting down the aisle with Wilkie now, she is a character really.
But not fit to lead this great nation.
Kevin must be on laughing gas 24/7 at this stage.
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LOL .... sashaying is the correct spelling but funnily enough sacheting has a certain ring to it as well. Gillard certainly does remind me of a small disposable bag now that you mention it.
Gillard does not deserve a second term. She took the electorate to the polls on the promise of "Let Australia decide to elect the Prime Minister"
They have ... and she is not it. Primary vote counts ... hodge podge backroom deals with the Greens is not an option.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/features/fed...tt/story-fn5tas5k-1225911345298#ixzz0xwz0V2NCMr Oakeshott, the MP for Lyne, said he would present Mr Abbott with a statutory declaration containing evidence of the smear campaign being waged against him when he meets with him this week.
"One of the critical issues for me is whether Tony Abbott has control over his MPs," he said.
Agree totally, she looks and sounds desperate, poor ole teabag.
That's pretty funny given the apologies Tony Abbott is making for the actions of past and current members of the coalition.
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