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2010 Federal Election

Who do you support?

  • Labor

    Votes: 27 12.0%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 133 59.1%
  • Neither

    Votes: 39 17.3%
  • Haven't decided yet

    Votes: 26 11.6%

  • Total voters
    225
Tony Crook the new Nat from the West has opted not to join the gang of four. He doesn't want to be in the Coalition either. I think he wants to be a loose cannon.
 
If we were to have another election so quickly, I wonder who would actually change their votes?

Unless there is more information to change people's ideas, I wonder if the only winners out of another election at this stage might be more green votes.

No-one really knows how JG would go as leader as she hasn't even proved herself in opposition leadership. She is now in care taking PM mode. Most of her short weeks as PM has been in a very vocal election campaign targeted at emotions (IMO) and very little of actually running the country.

There seem to be a lot of unknowns including just how much debt this country is in. Perhaps the independents may extract enough information for the public to get a better grasp of what is really going on should we be required to head back to the polls.
 
If we were to have another election so quickly, I wonder who would actually change their votes?

I wonder how many candidates would change who they give their preferences to, given the way things turned out (eg. DLP getting in the Senate in Vic! )
 
Tony Crook the new Nat from the West has opted not to join the gang of four. He doesn't want to be in the Coalition either. I think he wants to be a loose cannon.

When the papers say that the Coalition will probably end up with 73, are they including Crook or not in that 73 number?
 
When the papers say that the Coalition will probably end up with 73, are they including Crook or not in that 73 number?
They are including Crook in the 73. He has already stated he does not support the new resources tax but for now at least, Julia is standing her ground on that one.

Who would have thought (before the election) we would see Wayne Swan bowing down to Bob Katter ?
 

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Now Coalition begins its own civil war

BACKBITING has begun in the NSW Liberal and National parties over the failure to transform the strong anti-Labor swing in the state into captured seats.

I can't understand how NSW didn't smash Labor given the state politics is so bad the state Liberals must be complete drop kicks.
 
Now Coalition begins its own civil war



I can't understand how NSW didn't smash Labor given the state politics is so bad the state Liberals must be complete drop kicks.

Do you have a link for that "quote"?
 
I've been wondering the same thing. You'd have to assume most people during the five week campaign gave reasonable thought to their choice.
The result was very close to what the polls indicated, so it's hard to see why anyone would be surprised and therefore want to change their vote.

Re the Green vote, there was a good article in (I think) "The Australian" today suggesting the media is well overdue to apply the same level of scrutiny to the Greens policies as they have to the main parties. This is a really valid point.

I wonder how many of the protest votes that went to the Greens would do so again if they really understood what the Green agenda was all about and its economic ramifications. Even if the latter were just to be expressed in terms of additional cost of living to households if the Greens get all they want, I reckon it would make a lot of those Greens voters have a second thought or two.


Perhaps the independents may extract enough information for the public to get a better grasp of what is really going on should we be required to head back to the polls.
Yes, it's somewhat encouraging that they have asked for e.g. details of how the $42 billion for the NBN was arrived at. Heavens, they may even go so far as to request something as out there as a cost-benefit analysis!!

Who would have thought (before the election) we would see Wayne Swan bowing down to Bob Katter ?
I can't begin to imagine how hard Swan would have had to grit his teeth in this situation. Pretty funny, really.
 
Did anyone see Malcolm Fraser trotted out yet again on the 7.30 Report this evening?
He has already said more than once that he does not believe the Coalition is fit to govern. This evening, he had to refer to his notes to make sure he answered the question as expected.

That the ABC put him up yet again, and very specifically asked him this question yet again, is strong verification of their own political bias, (if we needed any.)

Isn't it time for Malcolm Fraser to get the hell out of the public sphere and leave the air time to people who have some relevance?
 

I think Malcolm is suffering from senile decay. They should put him out of his misery
 
Another real concern is that even if either party forms an effective government they will have the slimmest of margins. A death, an illness, a scandal a mistake would be all it takes to topple a government.

This would be particularly significant if the opposing party decided to keep maximum pressure on the government ie not allowing pairs in voting.
 
According to Adam Bandt (Lateline), 3 of the 4 at Wednesday's National Press Club conference stated they wanted an immediate price on carbon.

This is what all 4 said (Annabel Crabb - ABC)

Bandt went further to explicitly call for an immediate carbon tax, but Oakeshott and Windsor didn't. What though have they agreed privately ?
It would be well worth the media asking Oakeshott and Windsor specifically where they stand on a carbon tax and whether they agree with Adam Band's Lateline comment above.

It's looking increasingly like Oakeshott and Windsor are leaning towards Labor.
 
What Garnaut says,

http://www.garnautreview.org.au/pdf/Garnaut_Chapter14.pdf

In short, it calls for an interim (transition) price on carbon.

If that's what Windsor and Oakeshott want, they should come out and say it explicitly and not hide behind Garnaut or the Greens's Adam Bandt.
 

Malcolm proved himself to be a socialist when he was PM, and even more so afterwards.

He was always in the wrong party.
 
Malcolm proved himself to be a socialist when he was PM, and even more so afterwards.

He was always in the wrong party.

look at the era he was in politics - the ALP was considered very left, and still recovering from the communist links (real or perceived) from the 50's & 60's. the libs occupied the middle ground for many years and hence held govt.

malcolm was able to run a social agenda similiar in many respects to todays ALP, but miles away from howards.
 

There is no doubt these guys are left-progressives. They could never work with the Coalition. Abbott would be a fool to try to win them over by bowing to their demands to gain the benches.

Gillard is welcome to these posturing clowns. She should be given enough rope to hang herself. The three Stooges would help this process.
 

Calliope, the three stooges as they are called, are in a catch 22 situation and I believe Abbott is reading it pretty well. Yesterday's poll in the three independants show 55 % want them to support the Coalition.

If they don't support the Coalition and go with Labor, they can kiss good bye to being re-elected next time.
 
Just to set the cat amongst the pigeons


(pdf only - people.anu.edu.au/andrew.leigh/pdf/MediaSlant_media.pdf)
 
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