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2010 Federal Election

Who do you support?

  • Labor

    Votes: 27 12.0%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 133 59.1%
  • Neither

    Votes: 39 17.3%
  • Haven't decided yet

    Votes: 26 11.6%

  • Total voters
    225

Will be interesting to see what Mark Latham is up to on 60 minutes Sunday night. He may have a bomb shell somebody else posted a week ago.
 


I'd love to lose. My point, and the problem, is that I'm engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

I'll LOSE when someone can show me a better way of looking at the world. Can't see how you're going to do that without, you know, presenting any actual arguments.
 
Insulation in roofs then tearing it out again, not to mention destroying an entire industry, isn't your run of the mill mismanagement.

(And to the larger issue of who-would-have-stuffed-the-stimulus-the-worst):

The insulation scheme was blatantly idiotic. You pump an insane amount of money into a small industry, what the hell do you think will happen? Gee, shonks came out of the woodwork to lap at the public teat? Who coulda seen THAT coming? State OH&S laws aside, it was a clear recipe for disaster.

So my question is: WHY DIDN'T THE OPPOSITION SEE IT COMING?

Isn't that their job? You know, scrutinising government policy to find problems? With no details at all, just the money amount and the target industry, anyone could have seen that there would have been a disaster. So why the hell did the opposition, apparently brilliant financial managers, NOT notice the glaring stupidity of this plan until AFTER it cost this country billions of dollars and who knows how many lives?

'Course, we're so used to oppositions doing nothing more than whine that we seem to have forgetten they have an actual job. But I think that's a fair question the next time the Libs whinge about this particular screw up: what the hell were you guys doing?

'Cause you sure as hell weren't doing your job.

I personally can't believe that the Lib's plan would have been any less rushed and half-arsed than the other mob's effort. I mean, politicians being asked to spend a LOT of money. When has that ever gone well?
 

QFT.

Faffing about at the edges, the lot of them. Same policies, just brand names and packaging.

There really needs to be another party. Maybe two. Lib and Lab have gone to the insipid middle, and there's no-one to the left or the right that aren't clinically insane.
 
According to the latest polls Gillard's bacon will probably be saved by the Democratic Republic of Victoria.
 

The nasty, cynical and suspicious side of me is thinking that if they did notice the glaring stupidity of the insulation plan their first thoughts would have been along the lines of "hopefully they'll stuff it up big time and we can hang them with it at the next election", rather than any thought for the good of the country occurring to them. Sadly, that seems to be what politics is about these days - winning elections, rather than responsible governing.
 

That's a fair assessment. However when I look at the faces on the opposition front bench, I don't see anyone capable of actually exploiting the government's stupid mistakes. The men behind the scenes must be just as inept.

Their advertising campaign is weak and insipid. There is so much baggage the Labor camp is carrying and yet the Coalition don't seem able to exploit it.
 

LOLOL ... argue amongst yourself. It will be the only way you will be able to keep up with your rapier wit.
 
Their advertising campaign is weak and insipid. There is so much baggage the Labor camp is carrying and yet the Coalition don't seem able to exploit it.
A simple response to the stimulus management is that it's much easier to spend money than it is to save it.

The Coalition should focus more on the fact that they supported both the stimulus packages (the only difference being the quantum of the second) and then turn the debate to the subsequent management of those packages.

The campaign from both sides has now degenerated into a taxing and spending race to the bottom. The Coalition by putting a 1.5% levy on companies to fund it paid parental leave scheme put itself in the same boat as the ALP with its RRT. One is left to wonder whether the Coalition would have been better off raising additional taxes in the form of resource rents (or at least reviewing the issue) and offering tax cuts/reform in the context of prudent budget manegement.

The Liberal's web page won't even load. That sort of sums up their campaign.
 

Yes Doc I feel much the same way. The Australian has run a swag of material over the past few months highlighting Labor management failures, which they have failed to take advantage of. I think they have blown it.

I now get the feeling that The Australian is positioning itself to come out, in their editorial next Saturday morning, in favour of Gillard. In a similar way they endorsed Rudd in 2007.
 
I now get the feeling that The Australian is positioning itself to come out, in their editorial next Saturday morning, in favour of Gillard. In a similar way they endorsed Rudd in 2007.
They have already started this, viz Paul Kelly's lengthy article in today's 'Weekend Australian'. Complete change of tune.
 
Don't miss Mark Latham on 60 Minutes ch 9 7.30 pm tomorrow evening. I think it may be explosive.

Latham wants revenge on both Gillard and Rudd as the hatred is very evident.
 
Don't miss Mark Latham on 60 Minutes ch 9 7.30 pm tomorrow evening. I think it may be explosive.
Given he has long since published his diaries, I suspect it will be little more than mildly amusing.

I'll be watching it though, just in case. Good marketing by CH9.
 
Kevin Rudd will be interviewed on channel 7's "Sunday Night" tomorrow.
Not sure if I can cope with him being all brave and stoic, marching forward in good heart for the sake of the mighty Labor Party.
 
Kevin Rudd will be interviewed on channel 7's "Sunday Night" tomorrow.
Not sure if I can cope with him being all brave and stoic, marching forward in good heart for the sake of the mighty Labor Party.

I think it will be a shot in the arm for the Libs. If Kevin Rudd comes across as being unfairly hung by the Labor Party then it might sway a few swinging voters. If they have pictures of him playing with kiddies and looking human rather than a robot and answering questions frankly, people will empathise with him that the back stabbing by the Labor factions (Bill Shorten) was unneccesary. Ooooopsies.
 
Kevin Rudd will be interviewed on channel 7's "Sunday Night" tomorrow.
Not sure if I can cope with him being all brave and stoic, marching forward in good heart for the sake of the mighty Labor Party.

It is in Rudd's best interests for Gillard to win the election. Whatever his plans for the future are, he has a better chance of achieving them from a Government base rather than an Opposition base.

Prior to the election he will keep his true feelings well under control. The test will be if he is asked tonight whether he admits that his government had "lost it's way," as Gillard asserts.
 

Calliope, come what may whether Gillard and Labor win or lose this election there will be plenty of BLOOD LETTING after the event. The division in that party has not yet been exposed and imho is far deeper than one could ever imagine.
 


Prior to the election he will keep his true feelings well under control. The test will be if he is asked tonight whether he admits that his government had "lost it's way," as Gillard asserts.


I just cannot believe that people will try to give Gillard another 3 years to do whatever after all the same Labor Machinery with just different mouthpiece could not do in 2 and ¾ years.
 
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