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Eh?
Your Orwellian controllers have trained you too well.
So now we have the real Kevin and real Julia campaigning together and Labor morale, for the moment, has been lifted. But it is, when you think about it, a quite ridiculous situation.
Gillard knifes Rudd because she says the Government lost its way. She and other ministers then use the ousted PM as a scapegoat for every mistake, eschewing all responsibility themselves.
There is much joyful dancing on Rudd's political grave. But the ghost of the assassinated leader haunts the election campaign and voters in his home state resent the way he was done in. Gillard's campaign falters.
So she swallows her pride and sends out an SOS asking the bloke whose job she took to come to her rescue. It is political pulp fiction.
Gillard had little hope of saving the election without Rudd, but managing the situation from now on is clearly fraught with peril.
If Rudd overshadows Gillard and the election continues to be about him, Labor will be no better off.
You make it easy, when your political views are based on hate. I guess you hate 60% of those who voted in the above poll.
It only means that the socialists have embraced pragmatism, the end game is still the same. Of course in the meantime it exposes a cognitive dissonance as is obvious in the Wikipedia article on SD, evidenced by these two concurrent statements:
Your answer: "You make it easy". Apparently, I make it easy to prove you're an idiot.
Australian Workers Union "The Abbott Family" video
They're tricky and there sneaky, dishonest and cheeky, they're altogether freaky...the Abbott Family.
LOL
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LOL trust the unions to come up with that
Ok ok, sorry, not really back in the thread, but I can't let this go.
I had said: I'm going to assume you're NOT an idiot.
You said something dopey.
I said: well I was assuming you're not an idiot, but you're having a good go at proving I'm wrong (ie - proving that you ARE an idiot).
Your answer: "You make it easy". Apparently, I make it easy to prove you're an idiot.
Sir, YOU NEED TO READ WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
You are arguing with an imaginary person. Almost nothing about what you think I'm saying is true. Given your clear inability to actually comprehend the posts you read, I can see how you missed the stunningly subtle idea that my line about "hating the same things" was a joke.
Why do you bother to come here? What do you expect to achieve? You can't learn anything if you don't bother to understand what people are saying, and you won't convince anyone when you make no attempt to address anything they've actually said.
And since I'm here: Wayne, I'm pretty disappointed with this post.
...you give the second quote as this:
"Social democracy supports gradualism; the belief that gradual democratic reforms to capitalist economies will eventually succeed in creating a socialist economy,"
...conveniently skipping the rest of the sentence, that clearly shows it was past-tense. As explained elsewhere in the article, and in the post you were answering, the ideology has changed. The whole point of my post was that you appeared to be thinking of the long-discarded version of the ideology, when in modern usage it's changed.
So, yeah, if you show the older version and the newer version together with no context, then no crap you get "cognitive dissonance".
Here's the full sentence you chopped (my bolds and bigs):
"Social democracy, as practiced in Europe in 1951, was a socialist movement supporting gradualism; the belief that gradual democratic reforms to capitalist economies will eventually succeed in creating a socialist economy,[4] rejecting forcible imposition of socialism through revolutionary means."
I can't see how your mangling half that quote to make a point directly refuted by the full quote is anything but dishonest. So: see also the comic.
You guys just want an echo-chamber, don't you?
Save your breath Smelly...apparently only right wing conservative capitalists have objectivity and the required intelligence to make good political decisions.
The ASF gang of 4 have said so...so it must be true.
Save your breath Smelly...apparently only right wing conservative capitalists have objectivity and the required intelligence to make good political decisions.
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