2010 Federal Election

sails · 2 August 2010

Macquack said:
Bolt is a bum lazy journalist so devoid of intelligent comment he has to rehash the same story he has previously written and try to make it look new. Good try you wanker.

Haha - thanks for the entertainment, Macquack...

So, Andrew Bolt writes some useful history on Gillard and that's bad in your books...

But it's OK for Gillard to plaster the airwaves with advertisments with any negative history they can find on Abbott. And these advertisments are highly personal attacks on Abbott too - it's not just about history.

Every time I see these advertisments against Abbott, it simply reminds me that Gillard's history is probably many times worse - possibly very unAustralian ...

If Gillard can dish it out, she should be willing to take it. Me thinks she is hoping Abbott won't stoop down to her level by returning similar nasty personal attacks. I hope he does educate the public with her history, but without the nastiness.

nioka · 2 August 2010

Calliope said:
Obviously my post went completely over you head. It apparently upset you. Perhaps you are too far outside the square.

My comment refers to the impression an impartial observer might get on listening to the antagonists.

Perhaps "educated" was the wrong word. I should have said "intelligent". You go on about how educated you are, but you have failed miserably on the intelligence test.

Keeping you back after class can't fix that.

Up close and personal. I"ve broad shoulders, no problem. but I do have a social conscience. That is the difference between the parties. One has one hasn't. Maybe that is the difference between you and I. As you get older you may develop one so all is not lost at this stage.

Calliope · 2 August 2010

nioka said:
Up close and personal. I"ve broad shoulders, no problem. but I do have a social conscience. That is the difference between the parties. One has one hasn't. Maybe that is the difference between you and I. As you get older you may develop one so all is not lost at this stage.

You are so patronising. Up "close and personal"? You were the one who suggested I needed more schooling to reach you lofty hard-won standards.

By the way, which party has the social conscience?

Timmy · 2 August 2010

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nioka · 2 August 2010

Calliope said:
By the way, which party has the social conscience?

DYOR. "As is the case always on a STOCK forum".

However I can remember having discussions on wage rates with a prominent LIB one day many years ago when he came out with " Our job is to keep the working class men paid just as much as they need to survive and the women bare footed,pregnant and scrubbing over a wash tub. A deputy Premier too.

Another incident that I remember. I was invited to join Sir Hudson Smith ( Quantas Chairman at the time) on a fishing trip at The Bay of Islands in NZ. I actually spent most of the day with the deckie while Smithie spent the day scoffing whisky with the Skipper. The deckie was hoping for a big marlin as it would mean the difference of a bonus or no bonus. He told me it was critical. Without bonuses the pay was rubbish. No marlin were caught but I did have some fun with big Kingfish so I ended up giving a bonus to the deckie. He was not even thanked by anyone else.

Calliope · 2 August 2010

nioka said:
I actually spent most of the day with the deckie while Smithie spent the day scoffing whisky with the Skipper. The deckie was hoping for a big marlin as it would mean the difference of a bonus or no bonus. He told me it was critical. Without bonuses the pay was rubbish. No marlin were caught but I did have some fun with big Kingfish so I ended up giving a bonus to the deckie. He was not even thanked by anyone else.

The "deckie" probably thought you were patronising him. But it just indicates to me that you are the workers' friend, you have a "social conscience" and that you have a heart of gold.

You are indeed a socialist elite.

Julia · 2 August 2010

nioka said:
DYOR. "As is the case always on a STOCK forum".

Nioka, you've had plenty of opportunity to hammer your point about more stock posts in the appropriate place. If you could keep the references in capitals out of the election thread, it would be much appreciated.

However I can remember having discussions on wage rates with a prominent LIB one day many years ago when he came out with " Our job is to keep the working class men paid just as much as they need to survive and the women bare footed,pregnant and scrubbing over a wash tub. A deputy Premier too.

Another incident that I remember. I was invited to join Sir Hudson Smith ( Quantas Chairman at the time) on a fishing trip at The Bay of Islands in NZ. I actually spent most of the day with the deckie while Smithie spent the day scoffing whisky with the Skipper. The deckie was hoping for a big marlin as it would mean the difference of a bonus or no bonus. He told me it was critical. Without bonuses the pay was rubbish. No marlin were caught but I did have some fun with big Kingfish so I ended up giving a bonus to the deckie. He was not even thanked by anyone else.

So, from relating these two little anecdotes (and I'm truly impressed that you were invited to join Sir Hudson Smith) you seem to be implying that these two individuals exemplified the character of the Liberal Party. That hardly seems either reasonable or intelligent to me.

trainspotter · 2 August 2010

nioka ... this is the GENERAL CHAT section and not the STOCKS section. Just because you thanked a deckie wih a "bonus" does not mean that is classed as social conscience? The deckie got paid to do the job period. All deckies will whinge that they are underpaid and overworked and will tell lies to the punters to try and squeeze money out of them.

Anyways ...... Joolyah has decided to let us all see the "REAL" Julia Gillard as she has taken control of her own media and re-election campaign. ROFL !

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-el...eal-me-as-polls-flatline-20100802-111q2.htmls

Calliope · 2 August 2010

trainspotter said:
nioka ... this is the GENERAL CHAT section and not the STOCKS section.

Anyways ...... Joolyah has decided to let us all see the "REAL" Julia Gillard as she has taken control of her own media and re-election campaign. ROFL !

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-el...eal-me-as-polls-flatline-20100802-111q2.htmls

Her new strategy is to dig up all the dirt she can on Abbott. They have started off by turning an innocuous comment on Labor "waffle" into an insult to the disabled. Shock! Horror!

It's almost as bad as that nasty Downer rubbishing poor Kevvie while he is suffering in hospital with a belly-ache.

Rudd may be a serial leaker, but it seems Tanner is now under the spotlight for Oakes's leaks. He is a known Gillard hater.

nioka · 2 August 2010

trainspotter said:
nioka ... this is the GENERAL CHAT section and not the STOCKS section.

I'll make a deal. I'll be happy for you to post on stocks if you don't mind me posting on general chat..

Mofra · 2 August 2010

It's Snake Pliskin said:
Bolt is no fool. I have heard him on radio take lefties apart with facts and logic which highlighted his intelligence.

Have to disagree. Bolt tends to oversimply situations to adjust to the tabloid editorialism that earns him a crust. His "interesting" use of logic and crusade for the far, far, far right tend to be tend to override any sense of proper discussion when Bolt is concerned.

nioka · 2 August 2010

Julia said:
Nioka, you've had plenty of opportunity to hammer your point about more stock posts in the appropriate place. If you could keep the references in capitals out of the election thread, it would be much appreciated.

So, from relating these two little anecdotes (and I'm truly impressed that you were invited to join Sir Hudson Smith) you seem to be implying that these two individuals exemplified the character of the Liberal Party. That hardly seems either reasonable or intelligent to me.

Hint taken. I'll sit in the corner wearing the dunces hat and try and work out why so many liberals ( small l, I don't want to shout) that I know have exactly the attitude that I have mentioned.

trainspotter · 2 August 2010

nioka said:
I'll make a deal. I'll be happy for you to post on stocks if you don't mind me posting on general chat..

LOL ... DYOR. "As is the case always on a STOCK forum". Your words not mine. I hardly believe we need each others permission as to where either of us post. Knock yourself out Big Fella.

Mofra · 2 August 2010

It's Snake Pliskin said:
Tony Abott looks the better leader by far. He looks, sounds, more genuine.

Abbott ranks with Garrett & Penny Wong in the "sell-out own beliefs for political gain".

Garrett - Once uber-green, now pro-uranium for political gain
Wong - Openly gay Senator against same sex marraige for political gain
Abbott - Pro-workchoices but avoiding putting it to the people for political gain

I have to distrust anyone who is willing to play political football at the expense of their own beliefs. Unfortunately, there are few in Canberra who stick with those beliefs

Calliope · 2 August 2010

nioka said:
Hint taken. I'll sit in the corner wearing the dunces hat and try and work out why so many liberals ( small l, I don't want to shout) that I know have exactly the attitude that I have mentioned.

I hope you gave them a good nagging to put them on the right track. You have inspired me to develop a "social conscience". I intend to meet the prawn trawlers when they come in and give the "deckies" a handout to support their starving families.

Calliope · 2 August 2010

trainspotter said:
Anyways ...... Joolyah has decided to let us all see the "REAL" Julia Gillard as she has taken control of her own media and re-election campaign. ROFL !

Will the REAL Julia cut out the baby hugging or will she start eating them?

overit · 2 August 2010

Out come the bribes to buy a few more votes and make the worker poorer.

Families with teens to get $4000

The Family Tax Benefit (Part A) rate for families supporting teens who are studying will go up from $51 per fortnight to $208 per fortnight.

The increase will mean total assistance for families with a teenager will rise to more than $6000 a year.

Labor estimates there are 650,000 teens who will turn 16 over the next five years whose families will benefit from the change.

Calliope · 2 August 2010

It still looks like the old FAKE Julia to me. The REAL Julia should have blood on her hands.

Julia Gillard chats to students at McCarthy Catholic College in Sydney

nioka · 2 August 2010

Surprising that someone hasn't run with this one;

"Labor to get $300 million from Medibank19:04 AEST Mon Aug 2
Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan has announced an extra $360 million in "savings" to help fund Labor's election commitments - including $300 million from a special dividend payment from Medibank Private.

Mr Swan said Monday's announcement brought total savings for the campaign to $2 billion over four years.

"In recognition of Medibank Private Limited's strong capital position it will pay a special one-off dividend of $300 million in 2010/11 to the government," he said in a statement.

The treasurer said Medibank's capital reserves would remain well above the Private Health Insurance Administration Council's prudential requirements.

The Rudd government converted Medibank to a for-profit government-owned business in October 2009.

Mr Swan also took a swipe on Monday at the coalition's plan to privatise Medibank, saying it would remove "an important downward pressure on premiums in the private health insurance market".

"Medibank Private has had premium increases below industry standards for the past three years," he said.

But opposition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey accused Labor of a quick-fix."

I'm interested as a member of Medibank Private since day1.

Which is the worst of the two evils, the funds drain by labor or the sell out by libs?. I'd be happy for it to be privatised as long as the long term subscriber/members got a few bonus shares because it is subscribers funds that they are both talking about.

If we got some bonus shares then we could discuss it under "Stocks" (note small print).

drsmith · 2 August 2010

overit said:
Out come the bribes to buy a few more votes and make the worker poorer.

If it's so good now, why not as a stimulus measure measure during the GFC ?

She's also turned turtle on another debate with Tony Abbott.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/02/2971373.htm

Desperate stuff.

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