m8 - got to the first pagegreat book this one - anyone here read it?
hey edwood here's a joke for you ..
trubel withpoms - no sense of perspectiveits no wonder they won tho, look at how much bigger Martin Jonson is than everyone else!
we agree on that at leastwhatever the outcome this weekend, if the football team is anything to go by rugby fans will be happy to reminisce for the next 40 years. England will get up for it tho, should be a good match!
here's one written before the Wallabies played the Poms in the last world cup - and more generally about Aus-Pom rivalry
PREPARE FOR A THUMPING GOOD END
It’s the land of the convict in rattling chains,
And the land of his jackbooted jailer,
As to which was the less corrupt remains
A mystery for even the bailer,
It’s the land of a people who let go the reins,
And the cheers for a wild Peter Lalor,
And his oath of allegiance if Destiny deigns,
And his blistered spade-hands for loud hailer.
“Eureka!” they shouted, “Eureka!” the yell,
With a new-found emboldened erectness,
To Hell with the law cos the lawmen smell,
To Hell with politic correctness,
We’re here till they ring out our dying bell,
So bugger it lads, go for broke,
And if they imprison us just go and tell em
The whole thing was just a huge joke.
......
It’s the land of a youth so privileged and free,
And the small percentage who know it,
And the football uncouth, and the Wishing Tree,
And the time to nurture and grow it,
And our roots may be planted with English hoes,
But you wanna know something, my friend?
If the Wallabies take on the English Rose
Prepare for a thumping good end.
TEAM COLOURS
There's a green that you find on a Wallaby’s shirt,
With it's various faded, and various dirt,
-And the overlaid gold of the wattle tree,
-And “Australia Fair” sung almost in key,
-And the mem-ries flow back to my wonky knee,
-(And the barroom throws flack at the wonky TV)
And my senses on special alert !!
...
But I doubt a non-Aussie ' d be able to see
The passion to what I referred.
And the same thing happens for English teams,
When the red rose blooms and they dream their dreams,
-And no quarters asked and no quarters given,
-And the teams and the fans find their “reason for livin”
-When the six backs line up in seventh Heaven,
-(and the six packs line up from Dover and Devon)
And Life is much more than it seems.
.....
And the flags are hoisted like madmen – Driven to
Swinging sweet chariot screams.
Ripper !!
New Zealand 1.58
South Africa 6.00
Australia 8.50
France 9.00
Ireland 19.00
Argentina 26.00
England 29.00
Wales 81.00
Scotland 251.00
Italy 251.00
Samoa 1001.00
Fiji 1001.00
Canada 2501.00
Tonga 2501.00
USA 2501.00
Romania 2501.00
Portugal 5001.00
Japan 5001.00
Georgia 5001.00
Namibia 5001.00
PS NO WAY should Sth Africa be so far behind Allblacks in the odds ( imho) - but ... just guessin as usual lol.
quetion is, when they (SAfr) sent their second team across to the trinations (Aus + NZ) recently - and rested their best - was it a wise thing to do? - or are they now not match ready. ?
wowo - I got it right so far (might as well post this as I got the League result so screwed up , lol)sheesh this is ridiculous ! - assuming I'm reading it right
1. Winner NZ vs the Field :-
New Zealand 1.58
Any Other Nation 2.35
My money's on "AON"
2. Winner from Southern Hemishphere 1.13
Winner from Northern Hemishphere 5.75
My money's on Sth Hemispher I guess - but gee don't those odds tell you something about the tough boys from south of the equator
Winner NZ vs the Field :-
New Zealand 1.72 ( out from 1.58 )
Any Other Nation 2.10 (in from 2.35 )
All on track - steady as she goesWinner from Southern Hemishphere 1.04 (in from 1.13)
Winner from Northern Hemishphere 10.00 (in from 5.75)
These ties are most dramatically celebrated in sport, so here are some recent moments to savour. At the Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia staged the greatest party the world has seen. Great Britain also had a great Games (11 golds), and Steve Redgrave, Cathy Freeman, Ian Thorpe and Fatso the Fat-Arsed Wombat will for ever be remembered together.
In 2003, England won the rugby union World Cup in Australia amid banter that has gone down in history. “Is that all you’ve got?” the Australian press asked over a picture of Jonny Wilkinson’s boot, and the Daily Mirror responded with the same caption and a picture of Kylie Minogue’s bum. {lol} Not hatred, no. Banter, good banter, the sort that should decorate every great sporting occasion.
In 2005, England played Australia at cricket in the greatest Test series played and England won it by a hair. On the last day, England supporters put up umbrellas, pleading for rain, while Australians removed their shirts and basked in nonexistent sun. The Australia team took the field in shades (What do you mean, bad light?) {lol} and the Barmy Army sang to Shane Warne: “Wish you were English.” Great day.
In 2006, the rematch of the Ashes, England suffered a shocking humiliation in Adelaide and the Australians felt horribly let down. They wanted to beat a good England team, they wanted a great contest, they wanted great sport. Instead, they got surrender. The mood was of sadness and disappointment, not gloating and hatred.
But let me talk about one of the greatest and most significant sporting occasions I have attended: England’s rugby union match against Ireland at Croke Park this year. The Irish have rather more cause to hate the English than the Australians, but here – on the site of the Bloody Sunday massacre – they played God Save The Queen and no one interrupted.
That’s because it no longer mattered. Instead, there was a thunderous game of rugby between two grown-up nations, two sporting rivals, and the home side won gloriously. The handful of protesters looked like what they were: soooo last century. They looked like bigots and they also looked pathetic. Someone said to me in a bar afterwards: “An end to one hundred years of s****.” The England-hating O’Neill is (a) pathetic, (b) a bigot and (c) locked in the past. If there has been anything like a hundred years of s**** between England and Australia, it is over now.
What we have instead is a great and continuing sporting rivalry, one with great banter and unquenchable commitment and just enough England victories to keep it interesting. Anyone who fails to recognise this has no business in Anglo-Australian sport. It’s too good to allow bloody fools to spoil it.
hey edwood... when that article quotes Fry in that 70 year old reference , viz:-I guess you all saw O'Neill's juvenile comments in the press earlier this week about hating the English. looked like an inferiority complex to me
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby/article2591969.ece
“In all this Australian team there are barely one or two who would be accepted as public school men.” C. B. Fry, 1938
the others nations don't want us to win !! - cos when we do it takes half an hour for the flag to get to the top of the bludy pole" lol
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