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yes unbeliveable
Bali is fine and actually ultra safe but like the markets you have to understand the rules and the game.
From face book evidently the kid thinks he's bullet proof.
Set up or not---loose lips sink ships.
Some one needs to take away his I pad---NOW!
Frankly I and friends and family keep well clear of Bali.
there are far better destinations than here.
15 yrs ago I was approached twice with drug offers.
My kids have been approached many many times in their 3 visits.
The scary part is they tell me that they know of cases where they have had friends tell of stories where drugs have been planted by some in luggage---police called and busted with money changing hands before they leave.
Ive seen corruption (not drug related) in police in Bali.
Not a destination Id recommend.
Looks like he is going to do time, just wait six months more and we will have some other Di#k head do the same thing, WILL THEY EVER LEAN.
If Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard had refrained from their ridiculous grandstanding, the kid's situation could probably have been sorted out quietly without a prison sentence.
Ardi's boat, full of Afghan refugees, was intercepted by an Australian customs vessel off Western Australia's Kimberley coast in March last year. He spent 10 months in immigration detention, without charge, before he was sent to the Arthur Gorrie adult jail in Queensland on criminal remand , where he was banged away with hardened thugs.
A 15-year-old named Mukhtar was recruited from the even more remote island of Rote, a speck in the ocean near Timor. He was paid just $400. In late 2009 he was caught off Christmas Island, held for eight months in detention and then transferred to Hakea Prison, a maximum security adult jail in Perth. There he was kept in a section for ''protected prisoners'' who, almost certainly, included killers and child molesters. After a year and 11 months, a Perth court dismissed charges of people smuggling and he was sent home last Friday week. The $4 a day he'd been paid for prison work was taken from him to defray his airfare.
HOW on earth have we come to this? Are we now so callously indifferent to basic human decency that we believe we can treat these wretched people with such contempt?
Where are the normal safeguards of the law, which should keep children out of adult jails and ensure that they, and anyone else, are quickly brought to trial?
If Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard had refrained from their ridiculous grandstanding, the kid's situation could probably have been sorted out quietly without a prison sentence.
Yes it's tragic and was entirely preventable and now the tree hugging hippies want to save the kid from any punishment whatsoever. Maybe this one stupid kid can finally be a lesson to everyone else, accept some personal responsibility for what he did and live with the consequences (as terrible as they may be.)
My opinion is that it should be in the public domain and justice should be seen to be done and the boy should be treated the same as an Indonesian citizen of the same age would be
Knobby, I'm sure I've never said that he should not be either punished or made an example of. I've just observed that most likely the punishment will be more severe as a result of Gillard and Rudd publicly embarrassing the Indonesian government with their ridiculous media publicity and personal phone calls to the boy.I wouldn't call Garpal and Julia tree hugging hippies!
They appear to want everyone to be quiet about it and bribe the system discreetly. (I presume, not sure what other method could be used and I have lived and worked in Jakarta)
Knobby, I'm sure I've never said that he should not be either punished or made an example of. I've just observed that most likely the punishment will be more severe as a result of Gillard and Rudd publicly embarrassing the Indonesian government with their ridiculous media publicity and personal phone calls to the boy.
Making an objective observation is not the same as expressing a personal opinion.
To be candid, I'd be sorry to see the kid's parents or whomever bribe his way out of this. If that happens, what's the lesson to the boy? Obviously that you can behave like a total idjit, yet if you go about it in a clever way and have enough money, you don't have to experience the consequences of your foolishness.
So please don't imply that I condone bribery of anyone for anything. I absolutely do not.
The other aspect of this case that sickens me is the utter hypocrisy of our government in protesting about the boy being jailed, when they are holding ignorant young Indonesians in detention or jail here for extended periods of time, often without charge, on suspicion of being so called people smugglers.
These kids, some the same age as the Australian boy, are uneducated, village based fishermen who would obviously be vulnerable to suggestions of reducing the poverty of their families by crewing a boat to Australia.
It's quite probable, imo, that when they agreed they had no idea they were doing anything illegal.
Just imagine the outrage here if the top ranking members of the Indonesian government were to make widely publicised phone calls to these kids in our jails. What do you think would be the reaction?
My opinion is that it should be in the public domain and justice should be seen to be done and the boy should be treated the same as an Indonesian citizen of the same age would be.
Or perhaps he should be treated the say way as we treat Indonesian minors who happen to be part of the boat crew of the people smugglers. i.e. lock him up for a few years without trial.
Indonesian legal experts warn the lucrative deal could go horribly wrong and jeopardise the boy's sentencing, with one expert labelling it "fragile and dangerous".
"The media and everyone should wait until the court makes a decision next Friday," the expert said.
My first post in over year...cynical, when this 'kid' rapes your daughter, don't you dare cry. He was high on drugs and didn't know what he was doing.
Frig this piece of crap kid, he knowingly bought drugs and thought he was above the law. Hope his tongue falls out as he is being raped by some 45 yr old chinese child molestor refuge.
Well we could see that coming with the TV deal
The media reports have gone unnoticed with this boy, I think people are sick of it (stupidity and drugs)
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